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To: NYer
“dissenting” Catholic?

what ever happened to “fallen away” Catholic
or what old schoolers used to call ‘em “ex-Catholics”...in any case, this clown is about as "Catholic" as my cat! LOL

3 posted on 12/13/2007 10:54:42 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
I think phony ex-Catholic sounds even better.

As for Voice of the Faithful, well that's false advertising; it should be Voice of Subversion.

By the way, my goat is more Catholic than this cat.

Er,...not your cat,...this Ganz cat, I mean.


5 posted on 12/13/2007 11:32:24 AM PST by incredulous joe (Say "YES" to waterboarding international terrorists!)
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To: kellynla

He’s not just an ex-Catholic, tho. He is an ANTi-Catholic. If he were just not Catholic, he would not seek to destroy (I mean, to quote him, ‘to bring about structural change.’) But as he has founded VOTF, he is now fighting to destroy something he once loved.

vile.


8 posted on 12/13/2007 12:01:30 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: kellynla
Our Lady's Warriors>Dissent>Dissenting authors and speakers/dissenting organizations

Voice of the Faithful (VOTF) From their mission statement, they are attempting to "3. Shape structural change within Church." This is intended to make a "democratic" Church which clearly violates the hierarchical structure which has always existed and is reemphasized in Vatican II Lumen Gentium. The chairman James Muller states in a National Catholic Reporter article on April 26, 2002, ìWe have donation without representation, and we have to change that.î Also on a CNN interview dated April 29, 2002, the chairman desires cafeteria Catholicism: "... our goal is to provide a democracy for the laity, so that the laity can decide what they want and then counterbalance the absolute power, which we have now of the hierarchy." See more details below.

19 posted on 12/13/2007 5:30:08 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kellynla
Possibly Ganz is a cafeteria catholic.
23 posted on 12/13/2007 6:55:03 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Lib NO MORE!)
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