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The National Priestette Reporter (Caution! Contains graphic images of women priestesses)
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| December 5, 2007
| Carl Olson
Posted on 12/06/2007 10:20:13 AM PST by NYer
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posted on
12/06/2007 10:20:15 AM PST
by
NYer
To: NYer
Blah. Other than the “acolytes,” these are all old hippies.
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posted on
12/06/2007 10:21:50 AM PST
by
Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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Geral Augustinus at CLOSED CAFETERIA.
NCR and its priestesses
National Catholic Reporter treats self-proclaimed priestesses as if they were actual priests. They got
profiles of five grandmothers here. You'll see that these deluded women had been working in Church functions for decades. So, in a way, it's good that they finally "came out", since they now can't work for the Church anymore. Here one example:
Joan Houk, mother of six, was teaching parish religion to children in the 1970s and decided she needed to upgrade her knowledge and skills. So Houk enrolled in a community college, and starting with one class at a time, earned a four-year college degree in 1996 and went on to earn two masters degrees -- one is in conflict management from George Mason University, the other in divinity from the University of Notre Dame. Along the way she worked as director of religious education for a parish. She had followed her husband, John, a civil engineer, to both coasts, then he followed her to South Bend, Ind., so she could attend Notre Dame. From there, the couple went to Kentucky where Joan served as pastoral director for two parishes that lacked a resident priest.
They returned to Pittsburgh, Joan Houks home, when her mother became ill.
Houk -- with her husband as a major backer -- became involved in Roman Catholic Womenpriests after hearing Patricia Fresen speak. Since her ordination in 2006, she celebrates home Masses and meets a variety of other pastoral needs. The Houks still belong to a parish but no longer receive Communion there or work in parish ministry. They volunteer at parish fundraisers and social events.
Still, Houk said, she considers herself a faithful Catholic. This is one point I am very strong on. I will not allow people to tell me I am out of the church. Some say I am out because I dont follow one teaching -- that women cant be priests. If you took that reasoning down the line, a lot of very conservative people would be out of the church.
Wake me when they fake-ordain someone who wasn't born before the "Summer of Love". In light of the absence of young or even youngish women, their editorial is really laughable with its pathetic attempt of portraying a mass movement. It's the same people who've been at it for four decades, and now some of them finally sever their ties to the Church. It's a dated movement, since its proponents have failed to attract any young women. It will die out with them. Not that there's anything wrong with being older, but the dated nature of the movement points to its demise. If it were "vibrant", there'd be young women, too.
Given that the Vatican has banned Catholics from so much as talking about women deacons or priests, is it surprising that some women are opting to fast-forward to action? They arent discussing whether women should be ordained; they arent asking for permission to be ordained; they are just doing what, as they see it, a church crying priest shortage needs them to do. These are women who have faithfully served the church in many ways, putting their own wishes on hold. Until finally, they have said, Enough.
When even the deeply traditional Greek Orthodox church finds a way to authorize ordaining women deacons, how is it that Roman Catholic church officials get by with treating women as they do: as if they were children -- so infantile that their dreams for themselves and for the church are unworthy of even serious talk. Fortunately, numerous ordained men, even bishops, with a stronger sense of justice and more courage than the rest, have come forward to assist, assuring that these illegal women priests are validly situated in the apostolic line. legends in their own mind
We find it fascinating that while church officials assert these simulated ordinations lack meaning, some of the women have received the Vaticans highest penalty -- formal excommunication. In other cases, as in the recent St. Louis ordinations, the hierarchy has tried various tactics aimed at bringing these women to heel.
The hierarchy is rightly nervous about women declaring themselves ordained, however illegally, because these ceremonies carry a strong implicit message. Nothing says "Catholic Mass" like a riverboat or synagogue ? Well-educated women, loyal to the church, know that the historical and theological reasoning advanced for excluding them from ordination is dangerously thin. Citing the growing number of priestless parishes worldwide, they make a compelling case for a different kind of church -- an inclusive church, in which both men and women, whether married or not, heterosexual or homosexual, can participate at all levels. They know that polls show they have significant backing, given that some 70 percent of the Catholic faithful in the United States support women priests. So, like Catholics who ignore many of the churchs other bans -- on birth control, on single-gender lifestyles ?, on divorce and remarriage -- because they find little in these teachings that corresponds to their own experience of what is right and good, these women, in the vein of other defiant trailblazers, are saying we are finished playing by the rules. We downright tremble before you and your 14 "parishioners".
Whither women priests? Whither away Perhaps they will become yet another breakaway movement already are, although it's a movement that'll increasingly depend on walkers, as many church officials must drearily hope. Or, depending on the faithfuls response, these women could conceivably drag the church into the 21st century. Well pray for that.
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posted on
12/06/2007 10:22:06 AM PST
by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: NYer
Roman Catholic Womenpriests begins when a male Roman Catholic bishop ordains seven women in a boat on the Danube River. Who was this, I wonder?
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posted on
12/06/2007 10:25:55 AM PST
by
wideawake
(Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
To: NYer
Megan Heeney, 23, who recently graduated from St. Louis University, lives at a Catholic Worker house in St. Louis, and served as acolyte in the St. Louis ordinations, said, . . . I went to a Jesuit school, loved every minute of it . . . " . . . and came out convinced it was perfectly OK with God for me to be a self-centered, self-righteous little snot who could thumb my nose at the Catholic Church whenever it wouldn't let me have my own way. Good going, Jesuits!
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posted on
12/06/2007 10:26:50 AM PST
by
madprof98
("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
To: NYer
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posted on
12/06/2007 10:31:40 AM PST
by
Antoninus
(Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
To: wideawake
Who was this, I wonder? That would be "independent" Catholic Bishop Romolo Braschi of Argentina who was excommunicated by the Vatican in 1998 and Rafael Regelsberger of Austria, who received his episcopal orders not from the Vatican, but from Braschi.
To: NYer
Soon to be excommunicated fake priests.
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posted on
12/06/2007 11:20:04 AM PST
by
Apercu
("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
To: wideawake
Who was this, I wonder? From the above article ....
A major stumbling block was overcome when Bishop Romulo Braschi of Argentina (regarded by the Vatican as schismatic) agreed to ordain them. That ordination, on the Danube River near the town of Passau on the border between Germany and Austria, marked the beginning for Roman Catholic Womenpriests.
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posted on
12/06/2007 11:29:29 AM PST
by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: NYer
Braschi is probably not a bishop at all, but a laicized priest.
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posted on
12/06/2007 11:37:42 AM PST
by
wideawake
(Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
To: NYer
Coo-Coo, Coo-Coo, Coo-Coo for Cocoa Puffs.
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posted on
12/06/2007 11:41:02 AM PST
by
Palladin
("I love the smell of chlorophyll in the morning." -- Hillary)
To: wideawake
I wish the Vatican would make some formal announcement. Then again .... how many times can they repeat the same facts. If anything, perhaps such an announcement would result in more women signing up for theology classes. /sigh/ It’s just so frustrating.
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posted on
12/06/2007 11:51:14 AM PST
by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: NYer
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posted on
12/06/2007 12:29:55 PM PST
by
thegreatbeast
(The evil which you fear becomes a certainty by what you do.)
To: NYer
If they would only ordain some better looking gals. It’ll at least raise their attendance.
I mean I don’t go to Hooter because of the buffalo wings.
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To: PanzerKardinal
![priestesses](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2244/2091271997_34ee75e21e_o.jpg)
This was created my now-defunct blog a couple of years ago. It's just as true today. It was captioned (tongue in cheek): "Women's ordination: It's a beautiful thing."
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posted on
12/06/2007 12:55:54 PM PST
by
DogwoodSouth
("Thou art Peter, and on this rock I will build My Church..." (Mt 16:18))
To: NYer
Roman Catholic Womenpriests is an international initiative within the Roman Catholic church. Um...not.
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posted on
12/06/2007 12:57:21 PM PST
by
RosieCotton
("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
To: NYer
Even if Braschi is defrocked or schismatic, if he is a bishop, he can still ordain, but not within the Church. And if he was still with the Church, any ordination would have to follow canon law to be valid. It would seem that the Roman Catholic Church could get a court order to keep the group form using the term Roman Catholic. While the group could still use the word catholic, I would think a court would agree that using Roman Catholic implies they are part of the Church and therefore misleading. Maybe all the Catholics out there should start calling your Bishops and letting them know how you feel.
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posted on
12/06/2007 1:20:24 PM PST
by
frtom
(If you die right now, could you face our Lord Jesus eye to eye?)
To: NYer
Would you be so kind as to ping our Orthodox Brethren. I am confused about the Diaconettes comment regarding the Greek Orthodox Church and would like some insight from those more knowledgeable than I.
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posted on
12/06/2007 1:44:18 PM PST
by
Cheverus
To: NYer
Shouldn’t that be North American Women’s Catholic Church?
To: frtom
I've got one thing to say to these idiots:
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posted on
12/06/2007 1:55:40 PM PST
by
DogwoodSouth
("Thou art Peter, and on this rock I will build My Church..." (Mt 16:18))
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