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WHY DON’T MUSLIMS KILL IN CHINA?
J. Grant Swank ^ | 7/26/2005 | J Grant Swank

Posted on 11/22/2007 5:27:18 PM PST by Son of Dis

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1 posted on 11/22/2007 5:27:19 PM PST by Son of Dis
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To: Son of Dis

Because thirty minutes later you’re hungry for jihad again?


2 posted on 11/22/2007 5:30:01 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (I'm starting to think I need a new party)
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To: Son of Dis

The Caliphate has already won. There is no one left with the valor to stand against them.


3 posted on 11/22/2007 5:32:11 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Son of Dis

Lots of truth in this article.

It’s not likely the Chinese would tolerate 0.00001% of the Muslim terror we already have.

Their families would be punished, even.


4 posted on 11/22/2007 5:35:21 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Son of Dis

“America should not permit one more Muslim to come into the country. No matter what credentials. America should round up all Muslims now in the country and inter them in camps. No exceptions.”

Never happen and too bad. Not so much the prison camps, just not allowing them in. WHY are we allowing those in that we are suppose to be at war with into this country (Iraq refugees)? The UN is demanding we accept more Iraqi refugees and we are more than happy to comply. Makes no sense. Look at the student visa’s and see where the students are coming from.

At this particular time, we may not be able to stop them from coming in from Mexico, but we can stop them from Canada and flying into this country.


5 posted on 11/22/2007 5:37:18 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Quix
Chinese have a zero tolerance for terror.

Things we fuss about are non issues over there. They eliminate trouble makers instead of worrying about offending them. Surveillance of enemies is carried out. Dare I say, torture, would be used if necessary. They secure their borders.

6 posted on 11/22/2007 5:55:49 PM PST by tips up
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WHY are we allowing those in that we are suppose to be at war with into this country ...

Liberal PC, ACLU, Teachers, MSM, Weak Leaders, Uninformed Illerate Public, Kumbaya Bongo Thumping Wimps, Hollywood, Universities, Paris Hilton, Car Chases, Missing Blond Women, On and On and On!

7 posted on 11/22/2007 5:55:49 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: tips up

I’m glad we don’t live in an overt police state.

But I did feel safer there.

Of course, I was certain my every waking moment, at least, was monitered.


8 posted on 11/22/2007 6:01:47 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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Actually, haven’t their been Muslim terror attacks in China?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1291148.ece

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/123641.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_China


9 posted on 11/22/2007 7:46:22 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Quix

A reasonable balance is needed. Both the US and China are too much one way or the other.


10 posted on 11/22/2007 7:55:31 PM PST by tips up
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To: Son of Dis
Democracies are much too kind to diversity, especially killing cults such as Islam. Freedom-based countries are used to giving in, even to those with whom they disagree.

That is so true. We are annoyingly tolerant. Why'd we let Ahmadinejad over here to speak at Columbia? Why'd the Empire State building get lit up with green light in honor of Ramadan? Why'd the President declare Islam a "great faith of the world"? Why's Europe sucking up and having crap like "dress like a Muslim day" in their schools? Why'd a Dutch(?) bishop suggest we should refer to God as Allah to improve relations with Muslims? The list goes on and on and on. Enough already, this is doing more harm than good. Just stand up to the a$$holes and put an end to radical Islam once and for all.
11 posted on 11/22/2007 8:15:22 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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You don’t read of Muslims blowing up anything there. Why not? Because the Chinese would bomb their holy sites, their travel routes, their prayer mats while mosques would glow splitting through the sky via Chinese whatevers.

Ewwwwww..... Poorly reseached. You don't hear about it because the Chinese state-run media doesn't let you see it.

Read about the Uigar separatist movement in Loulan and the Takhlaman. They are in a cold war with the Uigar ethnic muslims and occasionally it turns hot.

12 posted on 11/22/2007 8:19:42 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (Peace Through Light)
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The last time the Muslims pissed off the Chinese (actually the Mongols), they got stomped on by Ogedei and Hulagu Khan (decendants of Gengis Khan).


13 posted on 11/22/2007 8:20:24 PM PST by reg45
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the same reason that liberals put up with gang violence

and international terrorism.

a victim mentality is no antidote.


14 posted on 11/22/2007 8:22:02 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: tips up

Good point.

But I’d rather see the social norms be so powerful in this country . . . as they once were more so . . .

be such that lawlessness etc. was largely prevented before it happened and severely dealt with when it did.

Families dealt with lawbreakers sternly regardless of what the law did or didn’t do.


15 posted on 11/22/2007 8:56:35 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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Because they are allies?


16 posted on 11/22/2007 8:57:33 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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China DOES have Islamic Terror problems, mainly in the “Disputed Zone” otherwise known as “the Occupied Zone” along the Indian/Pakistan borders, and along the Turkistan border....

While news sometimes gets out of China, they keep a TIGHT lid on it, as it dispels the “Everybody Loves Communism” myth...

One of the RARE events that make it into the International Press:

January 10, 2007
UK Times
China admits fear of Muslim terror as police kill 18 in mountain battle
Uighurs accused of al-Qaeda linksChinese say they found arms cache

China revealed the depth of its fear of Islamic-linked violence yesterday when police disclosed that they had killed 18 terrorists and captured another 17 after a fierce battle at a secret training camp in a remote northwestern region.
It was the first time that China had announced the discovery of such a camp in its territory. Officials said that they had uncovered links between the activists and international terrorist groups, hinting at connections to al-Qaeda.

The clash in the Pamir mountains on Friday was one of the deadliest for years in the restive Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region, where 8.5 million Muslims make up most of the population. One policeman was killed and a second wounded.

Police said that the camp, in Akto county, was run by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (Etim). It is listed as a terrorist group by the US, at China’s insistence, despite concerns among Beijing-based diplomats over lack of evidence.

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Firearms and 22 grenades, plus materials to produce another 1,500 such devices, were seized at the camp, Xinjiang police said. Officials declined to reveal other details, saying that they would release information only as part of a manhunt for fugitives.

State media said that the group may have infiltrated the region with the help of al-Qaeda, but gave no details.

Liu Jianchao, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, said: “There is a large amount of evidence, including evidence from this raid, that shows the movement is associated with international terrorist forces, and that it planned, organised and carried out a series of violent, terrorist activities in China.”


17 posted on 11/22/2007 9:02:14 PM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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Chinese have a zero tolerance for terror.

Things we fuss about are non issues over there. They eliminate trouble makers instead of worrying about offending them. Surveillance of enemies is carried out. Dare I say, torture, would be used if necessary. They secure their borders.

Communist countries always do these things. Only non-Communist countries are condemned for doing them. The rationale, of course, is that Communist states represent the "thesis" and will ultimately, by being oppressive, end oppression.

I still trying to figure out how this mass of contradiction qualifies as "intellectual thought."

18 posted on 11/23/2007 4:19:12 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Lo' Ya`aqov ye'amer `od shimkha ki-'im Yisra'el; ki-sariyta `im-'Eloqim ve`im-'anashim vatukhal.)
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Very poorly-researched. Attacks involving the mass killings of dozens have occurred in China. The question is whether they were Muslim terrorist attacks. Short of getting into China's secret police files, or being allowed to interview individuals in China's Muslim areas, we won't ever know. In a couple of instances, individual Chinese have brought down civilian airliners, while passengers in those planes. The government has always attributed it to individuals trying to get insurance money, or individuals with private grievances. I'm a little less certain. It's only in China that I've heard of an individual blowing up apartment buildings in pursuit of a private grievance - according to the government.

It's a myth that China has no Muslims. China has about 30m Muslims. That's only about 2.5% of the population. Still, Muslims used to be the previous regime's elite troops. Most of them are also indistinguishable from other Chinese. I suspect if the government were to move heavily against Muslims, they might get a lot of government officials killed.

19 posted on 11/23/2007 11:32:35 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: reg45
The last time the Muslims pissed off the Chinese (actually the Mongols), they got stomped on by Ogedei and Hulagu Khan (decendants of Gengis Khan).

It's not as cut and dry as all that. Genghis Khan's descendants in Central Asia and the Middle East then converted to Islam.

20 posted on 11/23/2007 11:37:10 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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