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To: Resolute Conservative

They just don’t get it or are purposely blinding themselves.

If you do not believe that God is the one and only always been God ( not a man raised to diety ) and Jesus is his son who died for us and we are saved by His grace alone you are not practicing Christianity and therefore are not saved by Christ.

If those are not your beliefs you are in a false religion as defined by the Bible ( Christianity ).

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Faith and religion are personal matters. I accept Jesus as my personal savior and worship God the Father through his Son. The LDS religion may be peculiar in many aspects, but it is no less Christian than any other as Christ is at the Head of the LDS Church in its beliefs and doctrines.

May I ask you: What is your view of Eternity and how do you plan to spend it once reunited with God?


336 posted on 11/14/2007 2:51:04 PM PST by JoshM99
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To: JoshM99

As described in Revelation and I will be at his feet worshiping Him.

No you are worshiping the god of LDS so you need to call him LDS god or whatever you are not worshiping the Christian God. The Christ you claim to center in your church was not the brother of Lucifer and is in triune with God.

Can you say that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one in the same, NOT the same in purpose only? You cannot if you are an LDS faithful.


339 posted on 11/14/2007 2:59:33 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: JoshM99
Your posts are a welcome change to many posted by apologists that have been holding forth here for months and I appreciate that. There have been many, many discussions since Romney decided to seek the Presidency...that's why your statement, "Faith and religion are personal matters" simply does not hold true now.

Romney's faith and religion CAN and most probably WILL split the Evangelical vote and the Republican party if he is nominated. That is something that mormons, in general, are turning a blind eye to, or are feverently wishing, as one poster put it, "There will be a media backlash".

IMO, that backlash will not happen during the general election because the media is the propaganda arm of the democrat party, and will aid and abet the tearing down of the Republican nominee, regardless of who it is...mormonism simply provides the dems with another arrow in the quiver.

I wonder if rank and file mormons are at all prepared for what the future holds? There have already been articles written about the reaction to the new light being shone on the religion, and as a former mormon, I believe that there are many, many who are not prepared for the questions coming their way.

Seminary and church studies in the wards and stakes are not preparing members for the avalanche of media attention coming. There are areas of belief that the average mormon will not have an inkling of when questions on them come their way.

I believe it will be painful for many.

341 posted on 11/14/2007 3:05:46 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE)
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To: JoshM99
"What is your view of Eternity and how do you plan to spend it once reunited with God?" Here is a vital clue for you to ponder in your quiet times: As a born again Christian, my eternity with Him has already begun. It began more than thirty years ago. He promised to come into my human spirit when I confessed with my mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in my heart that God has raised Him from the dead. That instant His blood washed my spirit clean so He came into my human spirit to dwell ... not jump in and out like a yo yo, to dwell; so eternity has taken up residence in my human spirit and by His Promise, not my work to keep it, He will never leave me or forsake me. From His location within my human spirit He is transforming me through the renewing of my flawed mind that I may have the image of the Son of God in His righteousness ... not be THE Son of God but have the image of Him.

There are two levels/meanings of Salvation: first, God applies the blood of Jesus to your heart and you are cleansed to absolute cleanest state of Jesus Christ; second, He, residing in your cleansed human spirit, transforms you, delivers you, saves you from the fallen state of your behavior mechanism that you inherited from Adam in the human race. The first is His fulfillment of His promise and thus to be taken at an 'amen' level of faith. He is Jehovah Shammah. The second is a process whereby you lean on His strength in adversity, and run to His protection when evil assaults your soul. These concepts come directly from the Old Testament where 'batah' (to lean on), 'hasa' (to run to for cover), and 'amen' (absolute belief in the Promise of God because He cannot lie) are found and explained on many occasions of the scriptures.

To exercise faith in Christ as a means to strengthen you so YOU can do all that you can do to be worthy is to focus upon the second meaning of salvation and miss the first and most vital to your eternal destiny. Satan enjoys such dissembling because it elevates your 'works' to focus upon in striving and leaves you dead in spirit in your fallen state because you have not the Spirit in you so you are none of His.

349 posted on 11/14/2007 3:29:00 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: JoshM99
What is your view of Eternity and how do you plan to spend it once reunited with God?

That is one of the main differences. Christians do not have to be reunited with a God that lives within them from salvation on. Eterenal life for believers begins at salvation.

How are you going to spend eternity? Being a god over your own planet? Or is that a false option that I have been led to believe by committed Mormons and their teachings?

410 posted on 11/14/2007 9:02:01 PM PST by Syncro
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