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To: Dustbunny
The problem is NOT that the Church only allows unmarried men to become Priests. The problem is homosexual infiltration of the Church.

Government has a vastly bigger problem with government teacher abuse of children, 2,500 per year! The abuse is covered up through confidential employee records.

4 posted on 11/11/2007 7:37:19 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place
Government has a vastly bigger problem with government teacher abuse of children, 2,500 per year! The abuse is covered up through confidential employee records.

If someone were to really do the objective number-crunching, it would be instructive to see just what the ratio of child abuse is among the general population vs. public school employees, and the general poplulation vs. the priesthood. Simply becuase the number of priests, as a percentage of the poplulation, is so miniscule, and the number of victims (per parish, and as a percentage of the overall population) is also so miniscule, there is good reason to conclude intuitively that pedophilia among clergy is a near statistical zero; even if it is a completely overarching moral failure.

But these are truths that will never be echoed. Judgment begins with the house of God. And if it can barely survive, how will it go for those outside?

8 posted on 11/11/2007 7:43:11 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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To: ricks_place
The problem is homosexual infiltration of the Church.

Which came first the chicken are the egg. LOL

17 posted on 11/11/2007 7:52:29 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ricks_place; Dustbunny

The problem is that the Latin church in the US post-Vatican II turned the primary responsibility for screening candidates for the priesthood for ‘stability’ over to secular psychologists, for whom the immorality of sodomy was not a meaningful category, and the Latin church as a whole cut back on the intensity of daily prayer life required of priests.

I am sure that from the middle ages when the Latin west imposed a requirement of celibacy on all priests down to the present day, pious Latin Christian men who are beset by homoerotic temptations have seen the celibacy of the priesthood as a way of putting a check on their sinful urges and have gravitated to the priesthood, the moreso with the waning of men’s monasticism in the West.

So long as spiritually sensitive bishops, priests or monastics were vetting candidates, and the Latin Rite priesthood required the sort of intense prayer life that is the only context in which celibacy is really feasible (cf. the experience of the Church East and West and of Buddhism), there wasn’t a problem. Once the gate-keeping was turned over to psychologists who had imbibed the surrounding secular culture’s normalization of homoeroticism, and the Divine Office required of priests was reduced by the abolition of Prime, reductions to Matins, and the requirement that only one or more of Terce, Sext, and None be said, rather than all three at their proper times, the sad results followed.


35 posted on 11/11/2007 9:21:08 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: ricks_place

/agree


41 posted on 11/11/2007 9:42:13 AM PST by MrEdd (Ron Paul is Ralph Nader for the right...)
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