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The problem is that the Latin church in the US post-Vatican II turned the primary responsibility for screening candidates for the priesthood for ‘stability’ over to secular psychologists, for whom the immorality of sodomy was not a meaningful category, and the Latin church as a whole cut back on the intensity of daily prayer life required of priests.

I am sure that from the middle ages when the Latin west imposed a requirement of celibacy on all priests down to the present day, pious Latin Christian men who are beset by homoerotic temptations have seen the celibacy of the priesthood as a way of putting a check on their sinful urges and have gravitated to the priesthood, the moreso with the waning of men’s monasticism in the West.

So long as spiritually sensitive bishops, priests or monastics were vetting candidates, and the Latin Rite priesthood required the sort of intense prayer life that is the only context in which celibacy is really feasible (cf. the experience of the Church East and West and of Buddhism), there wasn’t a problem. Once the gate-keeping was turned over to psychologists who had imbibed the surrounding secular culture’s normalization of homoeroticism, and the Divine Office required of priests was reduced by the abolition of Prime, reductions to Matins, and the requirement that only one or more of Terce, Sext, and None be said, rather than all three at their proper times, the sad results followed.


35 posted on 11/11/2007 9:21:08 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
So long as spiritually sensitive bishops, priests or monastics were vetting candidates, and the Latin Rite priesthood required the sort of intense prayer life that is the only context in which celibacy is really feasible ..., there wasn’t a problem. Once the gate-keeping was turned over to psychologists who had imbibed the surrounding secular culture’s normalization of homoeroticism, and the Divine Office required of priests was reduced... the sad results followed.

I agree with your point of view. In the parish where I lived as a non-Catholic, some of the priests partied and drank and drove fancy cars, and the older housewives of the parish cleaned the rectory, did their laundry and cooking, and waited upon them. This sort of anti-ascetic privilege was baffling to me. Being a "dry" Protestant, I couldn't fathom the drinking among priests. Alcohol and lowered inhibitions are inextricably linked, to say nothing of the bad effects of the migration away from a truly pious prayer life.

84 posted on 11/12/2007 10:01:59 AM PST by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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