“So you are denying the reality of all those places in the OT where God said He would come against Israel and He didnt show up in person but used nations to do His bidding.”
So where in the Old Testament does God say “and you shall see Me coming...”. What they experienced are the effects of God’s actions but He does not say they will see Him like the promise or threat in Matthew 23, 24 and 26. In fact Matthew 23:39 says they will not see him until he comes in His glory so that 70 A.D. could not be an appearance.
It also could not be his coming in judgment since no one recognized the event as the judgment of God, so no one saw him. What good does the punishment do if the wrong doer does not recognize it as such? All that it did do for Israel was confirm in them their victim status as the suffering servant of Isaiah 53.
I realize you must still be struggling with the issues I raised in post #734 so I will not distract you by replying to this post at this time. Perhaps the Greek and Hebrew are giving you a hard time.
In any event, I want to give you as much opportunity as you need to respond fully and carefully to that post.