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To: topcat54
John says nothing about it, and you know it. A sign of desperation when your emperor has no clothes. We clearly affirm two physical comings of Christ in conformity to all the creeds of the Church.

Baloney == you preterists have invented a third coming by calling Matthew 24:30 an ethereal "not in the flesh" coming that you claim took place in 70 AD. Preterism is nothing more than the neo-Gnosticism of a bunch of scoffers that Peter warned about.

736 posted on 11/12/2007 4:19:45 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; tabsternager
Baloney == you preterists have invented a third coming by calling Matthew 24:30 an ethereal "not in the flesh" coming that you claim took place in 70 AD. Preterism is nothing more than the neo-Gnosticism of a bunch of scoffers that Peter warned about.

So you are denying the reality of all those places in the OT where God said He would come against Israel and He didn’t show up in person but used nations to do His bidding. E.g.,

And I will come near you for judgment;
I will be a swift witness
Against sorcerers,
Against adulterers,
Against perjurers,
Against those who exploit wage earners and widows and orphans,
And against those who turn away an alien—
Because they do not fear Me,”
Says the LORD of hosts. (Malachi 3:5)

"Neo-Gnosticism"? Smokescreen! Your emperor has no clothes.

742 posted on 11/12/2007 6:12:48 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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