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To: topcat54; 1000 silverlings; fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; Lee N. Field; Lord_Calvinus
Amils generally believe that the "thousand years" spans the time from Christ's first coming to His second coming.

Is this from apprx. 30 AD to 1030 AD. It doesn't seem to make sense. Following the 1,000 yr reign Satan is released the final battle occurs and New Jerusalem comes out of heaven.

Many postmils believe that as well, however postmils generally see progress in the positive effect of the gospel over time.

There is no doubt believing the gospel does nothing but good. However, I don't believe Christianity as a whole is growing as fast as Islam.

I don't see understanding these issues as salvational, but more as discernment. I'm not looking for a flame war and I appreciate your thoughts. I don't believe the millennial kingdom has occurred so I guess that makes me a premillenialist.

582 posted on 11/10/2007 12:41:21 PM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights; topcat54; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Lord_Calvinus; Lee N. Field; tabsternager
Christ rose from the dead, and all history is an outflow from that point. God wrote the OT to foretell Calvary, and He wrote the NT to reveal Calvary. B.C./A.D.

The question then becomes does Christ's life and death and resurrection have a positive effect on the creation?

Well, since Adams life had a negative effect on creation, it makes perfect sense to believe Christ's life had and has a positive effect on creation.

However, I don't believe Christianity as a whole is growing as fast as Islam.

Islam is a blip. It was contained before and it will be contained again. What is this war if not a clash of theology (though many hesitate to label it as such?)

Overall, do you think Islam will prevail or Christianity?

584 posted on 11/10/2007 1:50:39 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wmfights; 1000 silverlings; fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; Lee N. Field; Lord_Calvinus
Is this from apprx. 30 AD to 1030 AD. It doesn't seem to make sense. Following the 1,000 yr reign Satan is released the final battle occurs and New Jerusalem comes out of heaven.

I guess I should have also said that amils and postmils do not see the "thousand years" as a literal 365,000 day span of time. They see it as a symbol, just like all the other symbols in the book of Revelation.

There is no doubt believing the gospel does nothing but good. However, I don't believe Christianity as a whole is growing as fast as Islam.

Your timeframe could be too limited.

I don't believe the millennial kingdom has occurred so I guess that makes me a premillenialist.

There are some postmils who do not believe we are in the "thousand years" yet, but nevertheless believe it precedes the second coming.

587 posted on 11/10/2007 2:13:12 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism is a disease ... as contagious as polio.")
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To: wmfights

THERE YOU GO AGAIN

Confusing the REPLACEMENTARIANS

with TRUE HISTORY

and

TRUE BIBLE.

You should know they can only handle skim milk.

I hope you don’t EXPECT them to make sense! Have yet to see them make much sense—especially in the prophecy dept.

There are soooooooooooooo many DOZENS if not 100’s of SCRIPTURES—any ONE of which totally neuters their whole pile of fantasies. And they have no clue. Shocking.


596 posted on 11/10/2007 3:37:08 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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