***There were no Christians in the Old Testament and there will no Christians after the Rapture, since only Christians make up the bride of Christ (Eph.5:30)***
Poor dead Jews!!! They get some dirt and we get the Messiah. I wonder how well this “gospel” works for converting the Jews to the Lord.
204 posted on 11/06/2007 9:15:12 AM MST by Lord_Calvinus
YHvH's larger plan of salvation, where His People are blinded for a time,
shalom b'shem Yah'shua
in order to bring His salvation to the gentile nations. NAsbU Romans 11:15 For if their ( His Chosen People ) rejection is the reconciliation of the world,
And their ultimate salvation after a period of blindness is guaranteed by YHvH's covenant :
what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
NAsbU Romans 11:25 For I do not want you, brethren,
to be uninformed of this mystery--
so that you will not be wise in your own estimation--
that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until
the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;
26 and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
"THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB."
27 "THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."
28 From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake,
but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers;
29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
My complaint, and I think you agree with me, is the fact that MOST Dispensationalists believe and teach that the Jews, who long waited for the Messiah, are told in their “gospel” that they will NEVER get the Messiah.
I believe, as do you, that ALL Israel will be saved. I believe that ALL Israel will be united to their Messiah. But, then, I’m not a Replacementarian, but one who truly believes the Covenants and Promises of God, as you cited from Romans. They are irrevokable. I am thankful that the Lord has grafted the nations into the vine.
Peace to you.
"His people?" There has always been only one people, one promise, one family of God -- those whom receive grace through faith. There is no "larger plan." There is only "the plan," ordained by God from before the foundation of the world.
And that plan, whispered in the Old Testament, is now shouted from the New Testament to all men --
"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36
"His people" are not unbelieving Jews nor unbelieving atheists nor unbelieving new-agers nor unbelieving Icelandics.
"His people" are all those who possess faith in Jesus Christ, now and in the days to come. How could Paul be clearer than this...?
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." -- Romans 9:6-8"Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Why would anyone continue to glorify the children of the flesh when it is the children of the promise who are counted for the seed, the elect of God?
Amen.