Posted on 10/25/2007 9:24:05 AM PDT by NYer
The Other Christ: Padre Pio and 19th Century Italy, by the historian Sergio Luzzatto, draws on a document found in the Vatican's archive.
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The document reveals the testimony of a pharmacist who said that the young Padre Pio bought four grams of carbolic acid in 1919.
"I was an admirer of Padre Pio and I met him for the first time on 31 July 1919," wrote Maria De Vito.
She claimed to have spent a month with the priest in the southern town of San Giovanni Rotondo, seeing him often.
"Padre Pio called me to him in complete secrecy and telling me not to tell his fellow brothers, he gave me personally an empty bottle, and asked if I would act as a chauffeur to transport it back from Foggia to San Giovanni Rotondo with four grams of pure carbolic acid.
"He explained that the acid was for disinfecting syringes for injections. He also asked for other things, such as Valda pastilles."
The testimony was originally presented to the Vatican by the Archbishop of Manfredonia, Pasquale Gagliardi, as proof that Padre Pio caused his own stigmata with acid.
It was examined by the Holy See during the beatification process of Padre Pio and apparently dismissed.
Padre Pio, whose real name was Francesco Forgione, died in 1968. He was made a saint in 2002. A recent survey in Italy showed that more people prayed to him than to Jesus or the Virgin Mary. He exhibited stigmata throughout his life, starting in 1911.
The new allegations were greeted with an instant dismissal from his supporters. The Catholic Anti-Defamation League said Mr Luzzatto was a liar and was "spreading anti-Catholic libels".
Pietro Siffi, the president of the League, said: "We would like to remind Mr Luzzatto that according to Catholic doctrine, canonisation carries with it papal infallibility.
"We would like to suggest to Mr Luzzatto that he dedicates his energies to studying religion properly."
That's a statement that I haven't read before. Could you expound on it a little? It is a concept which is certainly foreign to Protestant theology.
I assume that means you do not like what I am saying.
Truth is often difficult, especially if it means we have to reconsider what we have been taught to believe.
Hey guy,
Hello!
What kind of non Catholic are you?
Protestants believe that the church, made up of the elect is the body of Christ.
http://www.ldolphin.org/church3.html
I just love it when you drive by.shalom b'shem Yah'shuaYou excoriate them with their own documents.
Kewl.
The newsletter from our curriculum provider had a piece about a teenage boy, one of the students, who was observed to bilocate. He was seen at his church at the same time as he was being killed by a car on his street. Or something like that. They said he was a very holy young man.
Thank you all for the answers you posted to my question—I haven’t had a chance to read them all but will later.
**Italy’s Padre Pio ‘faked his stigmata with acid’ **
What a lunatic article.
The book I finished reading about Padre Pio by Ruffin speaks of observation of him on long intervals. I don’t remember the exact hours right now.
Sometimes people were with him constantly.
Another thing...........as he got closer and closer to death, the stigmata disappeared slowly. When he did die, he had no traces of any stigmata, any scars — nothing was there.
Acid would have left indications of burning.
Like I said above, what a lunatic story.
What book did you read?
Typical response.
This perplexes me. Are you not aware that Bible-believing Christians have asked the saints and angels to pray with and for them since at least a millennium before the Protestant era? On what authority do you say that your personal opinion trumps all the centuries of Christian belief and practice?
Chapter and verse, please.
Chapter and verse, please.
I'm surprised at you, Tolkein.
This is untrue, and a slander against Catholics. It is contradicted by every possible source of Catholic teaching: the Bible, the Fathers, the Councils, the encyclicals, the catechisms, the daily practiuce of Catholics --- everything.
And it is against God's commandment for you to bear this false witness against your Catholic neighbor.
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The clarity of Scriptures regarding the utter Supremacy of Christ is more than sufficient for me
to trump anything else mortal man might concoct.
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