Replies

Here's the 'nice Mormonism Apologist' methodology at work.

Thank you, for the complement, I won't get used to it.

I post to Saundra to prove her assertion, "But thank you for fulfilling prophesy." The usual suspect then takes 'Prove it, Mormon' and adds the previous sentence to it in order to mischaracterize and post the #2 lecture in its post to me.

I post to Saundra to prove her assertion She asserted she believes in Jesus Christ, are you "Proving" that she believes?.
The usual suspect Suspected of what, being right? Very well, I admit it.
Mischaracterize? In what way have I mischaracterized your position?

And the deceiver wonders why I don't post to it or ping it!

No, I do not wonder, I realize that you are a petty person who's pride has been offended and who is disrespectful of this forum and it's rules. Regardless of how that makes you look.

Do get a good giggle from the 'ye are gods' use ... and remember the context in which that was offered in the Old Testament to describe disobedient, bad folks among the Hebrews.

Really?

I thought it was because he said "I and the Father are one." in verse 30, and they were trying to stone him. See:

30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Or Young's translation:

30 I and the Father are one.'
31 Therefore, again, did the Jews take up stones that they may stone him;
32 Jesus answered them, `Many good works did I shew you from my Father; because of which work of them do ye stone me?'
33 The Jews answered him, saying, `For a good work we do not stone thee, but for evil speaking, and because thou, being a man, dost make thyself God.'
34 Jesus answered them, `Is it not having been written in your law: I said, ye are gods?
35 if them he did call gods unto whom the word of God came, (and the Writing is not able to be broken,)
36 of him whom the Father did sanctify, and send to the world, do ye say -- Thou speakest evil, because I said, Son of God I am?
37 if I do not the works of my Father, do not believe me;
38 and if I do, even if me ye may not believe, the works believe, that ye may know and may believe that in me [is] the Father, and I in Him.'

I guess, you think that Jesus saying he is the son of God is not why they tried to stone him, and that is not why he pointed out that the scriptures also called others "Gods". Denial truly is more than a river in Egypt.

And this little lie is another 'nice Mormonism Apologist tactic': "MHGinTN you have in many places and at sundry times denied that Mormons are Christians."

By calling us to return to Christianity you have denied that we are Christians, you have in more than one place denied that I am a Christian, and that Saundra Duffy is a Christian. in fact my response was specifically at such a challenge:
In post #644 Saundra Duffy Said:

Jesus Christ is my Savior, too. He died for me and I love Him. There is only one Jesus Christ, our Savior.

But thank you for fulfilling prophesy.

You responded in Post #645 with:

Prove it, Mormon.

That is a specific denial of faith in Jesus Christ, hence this is one place where you are denying a Mormon is Christian, you have also denied me in similar fashion, hence "Mormons" plural. I did not say All Mormons, I did not say every Mormon, just "Mormons" Thus, as usual, I am correct, and you are proven to be mistaken.

I have meticulously opposed Mormonism and stated repeatedly that I do not judge whether individuals are Christian or not who are in the Mormonism cult.

Ya just did.

In fact, I've even written posts where I state that there are absolutely Christians in the cult, but they are Christians not because of Mormonism but in spite of it.

See, here ya go again, you just can't help yourself, I know.

Bwahahahaha, what a maroon.

Well, I have at times made mistakes, and I admit that I have deficiencies in my knowledge, but I figure posting to people, and encouraging them to pray is a good thing, if I am foolish, it is the foolishness of God.
1 Cor. 1: 18-27

18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1 Cor. 2: 14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Cor. 3: 19

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

MHG, I seem to remember that you are a paid minister of some kind, are you not? If so, I am content to be called foolish by one touting his years of learning in religion, and who works in the field for payment of and in this world.

If his posts didn't seek to stand up so much deception they would be thoroughly amusing.

Ah, but yours never fail to amuse.

MHG, have a really great day, and I hope the spirit touches you and teaches you humility in your dealings with your fellow man. I also hope you will pray and restart your reading of the Book of Mormon, for it has much it can and will teach you if you will just let the spirit into your life.

Sincerely, DU.