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Posted on 08/02/2007 12:47:58 PM PDT by NYer
GRESHAM, Ore. - Oregon's first female Catholic priest was ordained in Gresham on Sunday. It's a history-making milestone, but one the Catholic Church does not recognize.
The Vatican says only men can be priests. But since 2002, there has been a growing international movement to defy that law and give women the same status as men, and ordain them.
Toni Tortorilla said she was called to the priesthood when she was 5 years old, and she believes the law is unjust.
The bishop who ordained her at a United Church of Christ, Patricia Fresen of Germany, was herself ordained by a male bishop in good standing in South Africa. Fresen's Dominican order expelled her, but she became the driving force to ordain more women.
There are now 22 women priests and five deacons internationally. None of them has been ex-communicated, but neither will the Church recognize them.
By the end of the summer, the women priest program expects to ordain another nine North American women as priests, and 14 as deacons.
The debate within the Church is whether the ban on women priests is human law or divine.
Just "Toni".
You are correct!
In the Church’s latest statement on this matter, Pope John Paul II, using his full authority as the successor of Peter, states categorically that the Church cannot — not will not, but cannot — ordain women, now or in the future. The Catechism of the Catholic Church sets it out clearly, quoting the decree Inter insigniores:
Only a baptized man (vir) receives sacred ordination. The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ’s return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord Himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.
A woman who is ordained would be a 'priestess'.
All that aside the Pope decides what goes in the Catholic church. Last I heard he had not authorized priestesses.
See post #5.
Nothing has changed - there are no, nor will there ever be, any priestesses in the Catholic Church.
Totally news to me.
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I don't know under what canon excommunication might occur automatically, but I did find this:
Canon 1378...
...§2. The following incur a latae sententiae penalty of interdict or, if a cleric, a latae sententiae penalty of suspension:
1/ a person who attempts the liturgical action of the Eucharistic sacrifice though not promoted to the sacerdotal order;
2/ apart from the case mentioned in §1, a person who, though unable to give sacramental absolution validly, attempts to impart it or who hears sacramental confession.
§3. In the cases mentioned in §2, other penalties, not excluding excommunication, can be added according to the gravity of the delict.
Can. 1379 In addition to the cases mentioned in ⇒ can. 1378, a person who simulates the administration of a sacrament is to be punished with a just penalty.
Thus, the reception of the simulated sacrament of ordination is be punished with "a just penalty," but once these pseudo-priests attempt to celebrate Mass or hear confession, they are latae sententiae interdicted. As you know, there isn't a whole lot of difference for a layperson between excommunication and interdiction.
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<<<”The debate within the Church is whether the ban on women priests is human law or divine”>>>>
This writer is screwy!
You have a slight advantage, of course, since he's been dead for about 127 years.
Well, dead or not, I can’t cede SanFran or rice futures!
Or stray dogs (the late lamented "Bummer" and "Lazarus".)
Could have been more than one bishop.
I know of a South African bishop, whom I would think likely to pull such a stunt.
Check Mahony’s travel records.
It appears, to be lesbian living with a female partner, and it works with the gay/lesbian community.
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?fr=ybr_sbc&p=Toni%20Tortorilla%20+%20gay
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