Posted on 07/25/2007 7:20:45 PM PDT by Ottofire
Amen. Well put.
Protestants utilize this one of the seven of Christ-instituted sacraments. Mr. Warren: please treat this sacrament with the dignity it deserves.
44) Watch “It’s a Wonderful Life” and modify the rec hall floor accordingly..
MY brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality.
Jam 2:2 For if there should come into your assembly a man with gold rings, in fine apparel, and there should also come in a poor man in filthy clothes,
Jam 2:3 and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, “You sit here in a good place,” and say to the poor man, “You stand there,” or, “Sit here at my footstool,”
Jam 2:4 have you not shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts?
Jam 2:5 Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?
Jam 2:6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Do not the rich oppress you and drag you into the courts?
Jam 2:7 Do they not blaspheme that noble name by which you are called?
Jam 2:8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,”[fn1] you do well;
Jam 2:9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors.
I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son & Holy Ghost....weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, then your church could install water sprinklers in the ceiling and when the room is full, light a match.
Covenant baptism is about God’s promises to us, which is why Christian parents can (and should) have their babies baptized—as again, it’s about God’s promises to his people “to you and your children” to quote Peter in Acts 2.
Dispensational/believers’ baptism tends to be all about the individual’s promise to God...the focus is on the person, and his/her promises—it really does tend to be human focused—closely listen next time you’re at a believer’s (adult) baptism.
All Christians should be baptised, and if they wait until they make a decision for Christ, all well and good. However, baptism really should focus on what God has promised us, not what I promise to Him.
Good humor though sad at the same time because of the implicit truth inherent.
Amen...
I can’t believe you missed the entire point of his posting this inanity by Rick Warren.
I think they ought to add #41
“have baptisms done by buxom women in bikinis” that’s sure to increase the numbers! After all that’s what it’s all about!
You know, they could even put those little feathery angel wings on and pose for a picture with the one baptized, for a keepsake!
Nothing about ‘make sure these people really are saved and know what they’re committing to’ but then again, if that EVER happens at Saddleback, it happens in spite of Saddleback/Rick Warren’s teaching, not because of it.
Complete with apples?
Seriously, this reminds me of Sun Myung Moon marrying 4000 couples at a time.
What I don’t understand is why they count anything? Remember how displeased God was when David wanted to count the people of Israel. Just focus on the right teaching of the Word and leave the numbers up to God.
NOne of that death stuff now, it's supposed to be a fun occasion! Balloons anyone?
groooannnn. You wonder when people will wake up to this clown.
I didn't miss the point at all. I was making a point.
TO YOU.
I Cor:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Why can't you assume the best about people? What's your problem?
Do you ever pray for people that you disagree with, or is it easier to just accuse them of being heretics?
Rick Warren isn't the problem here.
Most Baptists would not make this claim. Baptism is a very serious ordinance that should be only entered into after a great deal of reflection. Our pastor, to his credit, requires anyone who wants to be baptized to attend classes so they understand what they are professing.
If Rick Warren wants a party, there are plenty of other opportunities then church ordinances. One should remember that the Corinthians turned the Lord's Supper into a party and God was none too happy.
No, they turned it into a gluttonous orgy of judgment against their fellow man.
God isn't against us enjoying His presence and liking it! I can't believe you guys.
Baptism isn’t about “enjoying His presence”. Baptism is an ordinance illustrating to the world that one recognizes they are a sinner, have repented and asked God to enter their life. They now wish to be associated with the promises of Christ, whatever that entails including persecution. What specifically would someone want to celebrate?
While I do not believe one can lose the gift of salvation that God has bestowed upon us, it is presumptuous and prideful to celebrate one's calling. If we recognized our calling we wouldn't be celebrating that we've crossed over to the Perly Gates. Instead our baptism would serve in showing how far short we fall and how many miles we need to walk to those gates.
The communion of the Holy Spirit? nah.
If we recognized our calling we wouldn't be celebrating that we've crossed over to the Perly Gates. Instead our baptism would serve in showing how far short we fall and how many miles we need to walk to those gates.
If we recognized the kindness, beauty and glory of Jesus, we would be smiling at the thought of His love for us, despite our flaws, and the prospect of walking with Him for the rest of eternity!
Lighten up. Life is supposed to be fun, we're free from sin now, we have all things that pertain to life and godliness, we've entered into the Kingdom. We have the opportunity to change the sinners around us into saints! Why should we be so dour? Not me.
Seriously, this reminds me of Sun Myung Moon marrying 4000 couples at a time.
S.M.M. also did mass baptisms with a firehose, if I recall correctly.
Wonder how the old heretic's doing. Getting up there, by this time.
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