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To: Forest Keeper
I wrote :So why do you insist that this new creation can do nothing good, even with God's graces moving his will to please God? How are we still worthless?

FK responded: We can do nothing good OF OUR OWN.

It is replies like this that convince me that you are not listening and continuing conversation is futile. Read it more carefully and stop jumping to conclusions.

Regards

9,986 posted on 10/27/2007 3:58:51 PM PDT by jo kus
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To: jo kus
FK responded: We can do nothing good OF OUR OWN.

It is replies like this that convince me that you are not listening and continuing conversation is futile. Read it more carefully and stop jumping to conclusions.

I think I've been listening, and I wasn't jumping to conclusions about you, I was only referring to me and explaining my answer. I wasn't saying, "as opposed to you". My understanding of your position now is that there must be a cooperation between man and God. Each does (H)his own part, but even in the human part you rely on God. I think you'd say that in your own cooperation it is God who is behind it or a part of it. So, to make up numbers, even if you split your "half" with God, that still leaves a "quarter" of the credit going to the man. I'm just trying to come up with a way to express this since I know we disagree on "something" here. :)

IOW, there is some "thing" that you do to make it cooperation instead of God doing it all. Whatever that "thing" is, and who is responsible for it, is what we disagree upon. Perhaps we just disagree on God's management style, hands on versus a delegator. Would you agree to that? :)

10,076 posted on 10/29/2007 4:55:16 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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