[jo kus]

The Catholic and Orthodox theology is clearly a self-centered theology wherein God provides nothing more than the opporunity for salvation, but that man is entirely responsible for ensuring and perfecting his own salvation. Objectively it would appear that the Catholic does not believe a man is saved by Christ, but by his own efforts.

As usual, you do not understand much about Catholicism/Orthodoxy. It has been said here countless times that we ALONE can do nothing without God. But when recreated and transformed, indwelled with God's Spirit, we CAN do good in Christ. Thus, we don't do anything good ALONE. There is a higher principle acting within us that moves our will and desire.

Unfortunately, you are not interested in hearing that, but prefer your strawman Catholic/Orthodox. It is easier to beat up.

Regards

[P-Marlowe]

No matter how you slice it, Catholic theology is self centered. When it comes down to brass tacks, the Catholic saves himself. Call it what you want, but objectively the Catholic is his own savior. Salvation is all in the Catholic's own hands. Christ does not save a person, the person is saved by his own efforts. Christ merely makes salvation a possibility, after that it is up to the Catholic.

Like the Mormon, the Catholic is saved ultimately "by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel."

I left a cult like that.

[kosta50]

But when recreated and transformed, indwelled with God's Spirit, we CAN do good in Christ. Thus, we don't do anything good ALONE. There is a higher principle acting within us that moves our will and desire

A higher principle, jo...that sums it up brilliantly. Rather different than being a Reformed rag doll (He calls His chlidren) being pushed and propped up by God.