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To: jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg; Kolokotronis; xzins; kosta50; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; Alamo-Girl
No matter how you slice it, Catholic theology is self centered. When it comes down to brass tacks, the Catholic saves himself. Call it what you want, but objectively the Catholic is his own savior. Salvation is all in the Catholic's own hands. Christ does not save a person, the person is saved by his own efforts. Christ merely makes salvation a possibility, after that it is up to the Catholic.

Like the Mormon, the Catholic is saved ultimately "by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel."

I left a cult like that.

9,506 posted on 10/20/2007 12:35:01 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
No matter how you slice it, Catholic theology is self centered. When it comes down to brass tacks, the Catholic saves himself.

If a person can do no good without God, something we say all the time, how on earth can you then turn around and say we "save ourselves"? Are you being obstinate on purpose?

9,512 posted on 10/20/2007 5:00:38 PM PDT by jo kus
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