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To: Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

The fact remains, DrE, that the sacrifice of the incarnate, 2d Person of the Trinity was so precious, so valuable that none can argue that it would not have covered all sin for all time by virtue of having not been precious or valuable enough.

If God is all in all, then any sacrifice by God is already an ultimate price that cannot be surpassed by anything.

It is not possible for Christ’s blood to be wasted. It is sufficient for ALL, YET it applies only to the elect, those who come to Him.

Those who argue against this cannot argue: “Well, Christ’s blood simply isn’t that valuable. It’s valued on the market at only 5 decazillion, and it would need to be 6 decazillion to cover everything.”

They can only argue what it was INTENDED to cover; never its actual value. It is the one thing in all creation that truly was priceless.


9,411 posted on 10/19/2007 5:40:32 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan
It is not possible for Christ’s blood to be wasted. It is sufficient for ALL, YET it applies only to the elect, those who come to Him.

You are correct x. To suggest that if the blood of Christ were shed for all mankind that it would be "wasted" on those who reject that sacrifice is not a biblical argument. It is an emotional argument. The Bible is quite clear about the target of the atonement:

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2 KJV)

9,414 posted on 10/19/2007 6:32:08 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; wmfights
It is not possible for Christ's blood to be wasted. It is sufficient for ALL, YET it applies only to the elect, those who come to Him.

That's the definition of "limited atonement."

And "those wo come to Him" are those whom the Father has given Christ to bring home, designated "not for anything good or evil that they may have done or will do," but according to His election alone.

Christ's sacrifice could have atoned for the sins of all the world, but in fact, His sacrifice atoned for the sins of His elect.

The sins of the reprobate remain, always and forever, unatoned for, unforgiven and stand in conviction of all those who were not numbered among His family by God from before the foundation of the world.

God elects; Christ redeems; the Holy Spirit sanctifies; man glorifies and rejoices.

9,431 posted on 10/19/2007 10:50:04 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
>The fact remains, DrE, that the sacrifice of the incarnate, 2d Person of the Trinity was so precious, so valuable that none can argue that it would not have covered all sin for all time by virtue of having not been precious or valuable enough.

Amen.

If God is all in all, then any sacrifice by God is already an ultimate price that cannot be surpassed by anything

Amen.

It is not possible for Christ’s blood to be wasted. It is sufficient for ALL, YET it applies only to the elect, those who come to Him

Amen!

They can only argue what it was INTENDED to cover; never its actual value. It is the one thing in all creation that truly was priceless

Amen. Amen. Amen!

Brilliant, x.

9,465 posted on 10/19/2007 5:16:34 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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