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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; P-Marlowe; xzins; Kolokotronis; jo kus; D-fendr
If the non elect can only do worthless things, and God’s will is responsible for everything that happens, does that mean that God is responsible for all worthless things?

No, since God is not responsible for everything. We are responsible for our own sin. If you want to say that God is responsible for all worthless things because God created everything, then that is one point of view. I don't happen to look at it that way.

Every one of you. Not all believed, but the ones who did repented first and then received the Holy Spirit. Not vice versa. Interesting. I presume that Peter hadn’t consulted with the Reformers first. :)

I don't understand, you are reciting the correct order. First, belief, then indwelling.

Funny, I don’t see statistical analysis or the science of numbers pertaining to sin of the elect versus non elect in my Bible. You wouldn’t be able to point me in the right direction would you?

No, I'm not aware of any study on the matter. I simply made a hypothesis that the changed nature will sin less than the Adamic nature. Does that sound wild and out in left field somewhere to you? :)

8,926 posted on 10/12/2007 6:06:56 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

If God wills all, and man sins, then God is responsible for man’s sins. You cannot have it both ways.

Ah, but you may not be in concert with the Calvinists that have been populating this thread: the Holy Spirit comes upon men and then they believe and then the indwelling occurred. Come on, folks, what is it? Is the Holy Spirit first, or is the Belief first and the Holy Spirit second? I’m waiting on pins and needles.

If you make a quantititative statement about sin, I’d really like it if you have Scripture to back it upl


8,930 posted on 10/12/2007 6:28:29 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: Forest Keeper

“God is not responsible for everything.”


WCF:
CHAP. III. - Of God’s Eternal Decree.

1. God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass


Calvin diagrees with you, my friend.

If the belief comes first, then the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, then how does that occur under Reformed theology? I thought that Reformed folks believed that the Holy Spirit hijacked the individual, then the belief occurred.


8,955 posted on 10/13/2007 8:09:43 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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