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To: HarleyD; kosta50; MarkBsnr
Are you saying that hell is not a real place?

Of course not, everyone knows it's at the center of the earth surrounded by a big oxygen pocket next to a lode of brimstone.

It could be at the end of a Black Hole

No oxygen, no light. sorry.

or right beneath our feet in another dimension.

You get this from scripture, right?

I cannot help what John Paul might have thought.

Your original point was about what Roman Catholics believed. I gave Acquinas, a Pope and the Catechism.

I know Catholics are trying to change the definition of hell to be more consistent with the Orthodox.

Or perhaps we're one church and it's frustrating when attempts at "let's you and him fight" don't work.

8,033 posted on 10/03/2007 8:36:49 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; kosta50

Smooches and kumbaya to all.


8,035 posted on 10/03/2007 8:38:54 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: D-fendr; kosta50; MarkBsnr
,i>Of course not, everyone knows it's at the center of the earth surrounded by a big oxygen pocket next to a lode of brimstone.

Actually NewAdvent proposed that it was at the center of the earth. I'm not sure. The scriptures are silent as to where hell is just as it is silent as to where our Lord is physically seated (you do believe in a physical resurrection I hope). Of course Mary was suppose to have been physically resurrection-that I'm not sure. Elijah and Enoch also were taken immediately to heaven. Where are they?

Or perhaps we're one church and it's frustrating when attempts at "let's you and him fight" don't work.

Nope! Pretending to be "one church" is a farce in my mind. The doctrine and organizational structure between Orthodox and Catholic are completely different. What I find is that the Orthodox tend to be very firm and committed in their beliefs. Catholics, otoh, have been slowing discarding and dissolving their beliefs for the last 1500 years. Fathers that have written things 1700 years ago mean nothing anymore because we have "later" information. HA! Augustine said that Christianity was like someone throwing a pebble into water, the farther away the ripple, the more distortion.

There's only two beliefs. You can stay where you're at but if you move you can only go one of two ways.

8,037 posted on 10/03/2007 9:13:28 AM PDT by HarleyD
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