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To: kosta50; P-Marlowe

Are you saying Jesus is not “The Lamb of God?”

Were Lambs sacrificed at Passover or were they not?

This is sort of a silly argument, though. He truly is the Lamb of God, and nothing anyone can say will change the scripture or change that fact.


6,708 posted on 09/19/2007 1:30:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; D-fendr; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl
Are you saying

I am glad you brought this up. My views on this are a little "un-orthodox" but they are my views, so don't be going on bashing the EO Church for my views. 

The Passover lamb is killed not for the atonement of sins but out of gratitude for deliverance from captivity and death. It has nothing to do with forgiveness of assumption of sins. The Passover lamb is slain and eaten as a thanksgiving meal, not a sacrifice offered to God in the Temple.

Here we have the first problem: by saying "Eat, this is my Body..." Christ makes Himself to be the Passover Lamb, a thanksgiving meal, not a sacrifice (sacrifices were ritually killed on the altar and burned as an offering to God).

The blood of the lamb was used not to wash away the sins, but as a "marker" on the doors in order for the Spirit (the giver of life!) , on a first-born human and animal killing spree, to "know" [sic] the inhabitants were Hebrews so as not  to kill their firstborn (as if God needs "markers," LOL!).

Thus, the blood was salvific in this sense, but it is not consumed.  Here is where the problem arises—again: Christ says "Drink, this is the Cup of my Blood..." yet Jewish Kosher Laws strictly prohibit consumption of any kind of blood!

Is this breaking of the Law? So, not only is consuming the blood of the lamb not in keeping with the Passover tradition, but it raises the issue of breaking Kosher laws.

Finally, just around this time of the year, about six months after the Passover, the Jews atone for their sins (Yom Kippur). The animal which takes on our sins in this ritual feast is a goat, not a lamb!More importantly, the goat is not ritualistically sacrificed and offered as burnt offerings, nor is it simply killed! There is no blood involved.

The Jews place their hands on the head of a goat  (magically "transferring" their sins on to the poor animal) and the goat is then set free to run away with their sins! And they tell me Jews are not pagans!

So, you see, the whole story is somewhat mixed-up. Add to this the fact that the festival of the palms (Sukkot) does not take place around Passover (March/April), but around October, and we have to wonder where did the Palm Sunday come from, since it is unknown as a Jewish feast.

So, when you ask me if I am saying  Jesus is not “The Lamb of God," I am telling you it's not that clear-cut. There are elements that seem to support that notion, but there are elements that clearly do not.

6,722 posted on 09/19/2007 5:46:54 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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