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To: Forest Keeper
Reformers believe that perseverance is both commanded and absolutely necessary in order to get into Heaven. We do not take it lightly.

However, it is not your perseverence, at least from what I gather. According to my understanding of reformed theology, man plays no part, it is ALL God. That would be where we disagree, the "all" part. It would be senseless to be commanded to do anything if we didn't have the ability (with God's aide) to do it. All wisdom, for example, comes from God. But He willingly GIVES it to those who ask. Thus, it is indeed OUR righteousness, given to us by God.

That is my take on it.

Regards

6,065 posted on 09/12/2007 9:54:41 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: jo kus
However, it is not your perseverance, at least from what I gather. According to my understanding of reformed theology, man plays no part, it is ALL God.

That's right. Perseverance is necessary, and it is also guaranteed by God. Man does nothing of his own for salvation.

It would be senseless to be commanded to do anything if we didn't have the ability (with God's aide) to do it.

That's also right. God enables us to obey His commands. The difference is that by the time this happens, salvation is already "accomplished". Sanctification is the operative process at this point.

All wisdom, for example, comes from God. But He willingly GIVES it to those who ask. Thus, it is indeed OUR righteousness, given to us by God.

We would agree that all wisdom comes from God. We would continue that He willingly GIVES it to those whom He chooses. Thus, it is indeed HIS righteousness that is imputed to us.

6,162 posted on 09/13/2007 11:56:27 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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