[Cronos]

You must believe the witnesses testimony.. in these cases..

yup, like the witness testimony in the Salem witch trials.

Don't you find it weird that you believe some propagandists but refuse to believe the word of The Church Fathers who lived under persecution?

[hosepipe]

[.. yup, like the witness testimony in the Salem witch trials. ..]

I am NO protestant... Wiccans are as legal as Masons..

[.. Don't you find it weird that you believe some propagandists but refuse to believe the word of The Church Fathers who lived under persecution? ..]

What you call church fathers or hand me down apostles I do not accept as apostles, brothers maybe, but not apostles.. .. its not strange at all.. Many were persecuted that held strange ideas.. But then strange is in the perception.. I am suspicious of dogma, most any dogma..