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To: HarleyD
You make the mistake of believing God wants to love us.. In actually God created us for His glory.

The Calvinist are correct: Only someone forced to would love God.

One has to wonder if God didn't want Adam to sin, why would He allow Adam to take that first bite.

Only a Calvinist could wonder. The rest of us know God allows us free will choices.

10,810 posted on 11/08/2007 7:52:03 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
The Calvinist are correct: Only someone forced to would love God.

You don't understand the situation that we are rescued from. If you did you would not make such a statement. We love because God first loved us. We understand our just punishment and the salvation that God has wrought in our lives. There is no "forced" love.

What is actually being denied is that God's will will be done. If it was that God willed that Joe would be saved, do you think that Joe would be saved? You'd have to say no because that would violate Joe's "free will". In essence you are simply denying the Lord's prayer's confession, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." According to your soteriology, every atheist who dies in their sin is evidence this confession is not true; God will is NOT done on earth. Calvinists believe God will IS done on earth as it is in heaven, just as God intends. If Joe goes to his grave as an atheist, it is according to God's will.

But, hey, you're "free" to believe what you want.

10,814 posted on 11/09/2007 2:17:03 AM PST by HarleyD (97% of all statistics are made up.)
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