[HarleyD]

Forced love is not love.

You make the mistake of believing God wants to love us and have fellowship with us. In actually God created us for His glory.

Again, a confusion of foreknowing combined with the fallacy of OSAS.

Too bad I don't believe in OSAS. As a Reformer I believe in POTS.

Huh?

One has to wonder if God didn't want Adam to sin, why would He allow Adam to take that first bite. Was this very loving knowing the punishment?

[D-fendr]

You make the mistake of believing God wants to love us.. In actually God created us for His glory.

The Calvinist are correct: Only someone forced to would love God.

One has to wonder if God didn't want Adam to sin, why would He allow Adam to take that first bite.

Only a Calvinist could wonder. The rest of us know God allows us free will choices.

[stfassisi]

Here is a few more writings that you might want to read from Blessed Saint Irenaeus,since you want to try and use him to support a reformed point of view.

Chapter XXXVII.—Men are possessed of free will, and endowed with the faculty of making a choice. It is not true, therefore, that some are by nature good, and others bad.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.ix.vi.xxxviii.html

How about this from Blessed Saint Irenaeus

“”Chapter IV.—The truth is to be found nowhere else but in the Catholic Church, the sole depository of apostolical doctrine. Heresies are of recent formation, and cannot trace their origin up to the apostles.””
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.ix.iv.v.html

Shall I go on, Dear Brother?

[MarkBsnr]

:::As a Reformer I believe in POTS.:::

Really? I had no idea.