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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; HarleyD
The Holy Spirit is [is the supreme Interpreter of the Sriptures], of course. Your side just doesn't believe that the Holy Spirit would give us the time of day

You know not what you are talking about. Read only the text of the Divine Liturgy once and then dare to repeat this nonsense.

But what is really a nonsense is that every Protestant claims the "indwelling spirit" and believes something completely private and inadvertantly different from others! Thus Osteen would surely say that what he teaches about hell is from the Holy Spirit as much as you would disagree with him claiming the same Holy Spirit as the interpreter.

Protestantism is unbiblical private interpretation of the sicrptures. The New Testament prohibits it. It is an amateur adventure, FK. It promotes relativism. Relativism denies absolute truth. It's a wide road to finding the narrow path. Good luck.

10,606 posted on 11/06/2007 6:28:31 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; HarleyD
But what is really a nonsense is that every Protestant claims the "indwelling spirit" and believes something completely private and inadvertently different from others! Thus Osteen would surely say that what he teaches about hell is from the Holy Spirit as much as you would disagree with him claiming the same Holy Spirit as the interpreter.

Oh, I think Reformers are a pretty tight bunch. It still sounds like you think it is proper to lump all Protestants together as being under one roof, the way you are. Then you believe it is fair to apply your rules to that group that you made up. It really doesn't work that way.

I'm sure that Osteen would say he is led by the Holy Spirit, the same as I do, and the same as your saying that the Holy Spirit leads the consensus patrum, and other majorities in the cases of doctrines and disciplines. It's the same idea, isn't it, except that for you it's by a vote of a group. Why is it that any one person can be wrong, or incomplete in his understanding, but magically any group must be correct? That doesn't make sense. Proof is in all the heresies, followed by groups, that you have fought against. Plus, Latin groups (or the Pope) disagree with your groups. You believe that God only leads your groups in scriptural interpretation, and we believe that God leads all of His children in scriptural interpretation. Neither argument is inherently superior to the other outside of scripture, and of course we both have our own ideas on THAT. :)

Protestantism is unbiblical private interpretation of the scriptures. The New Testament prohibits it. It is an amateur adventure, FK. It promotes relativism.

Actually, isn't it Orthodoxy that employs a much higher level of mystery in its theology? In addition, Orthodoxy has a much much "looser" view of scriptures, AND it relies on the uninspired words of majority groups of fallible men for ultimate spiritual truth. I'd say it was your side that would be much more susceptible to relativism. :)

10,659 posted on 11/07/2007 3:35:26 AM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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