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To: stfassisi

***Our fate is predestined, but not predetermined***

From the Oxford American dictionary:
Predetermine - to decide in advance, to predestine.
Predestine - to destine beforehand, to appoint as if by fate.

Both are the same thing. To predestine is to determine our destiny beforehand. Which is what God does. Our fate is determined (predestined) before the creation of the universe. We cannot change our destiny, our future, otherwise God would not have been able to predestine us.


10,474 posted on 11/05/2007 5:55:52 PM PST by irishtenor (How much good could a Hindu do, if a Hindu could do good?)
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To: irishtenor; kosta50; Kolokotronis
“Oxford American dictionary:?”

Is that the one Saint Jerome used -;)

Predestination means only that God knows what we will do, not that we are ‘obliged’ to do it.salvation depends simultaneously to God and to man, absolutely to God, without whose Spirit there is no grace and illumination, and also absolutely to man, without whose free will God can do nothing to save him..

Remember ,God is outside of time and not bound by it

Perhaps Dear Kosta or Kolo can help with the original Greek?

10,475 posted on 11/05/2007 6:11:00 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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