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To: HarleyD; Kolokotronis; kosta50
... FK's statistics bear that out; more people believe in a God of love than hell. You hear this in many of the "God is love" crowd; "God wouldn't punish those who never heard of Him." Hell is done away with. We don't like to talk about it or think about it because it doesn't fit with the "God of Love" synergistic view.

Yes, exactly. Before FR, I had no idea there was anything wrong with Protestant leaders like Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, et al. I saw Osteen a couple of weeks ago on Larry King Alive and just shook my head through the whole thing. Hell is erased. It is too uncomfortable to talk about and doesn't cater to the needs of the congregation. Good grief, what a mistake! Just as you said, Harley, it's no accident that Jesus Himself talked about hell and sin so much. What those in the laity NEED are the facts, not some feel good self esteem message.

Watering down the reality of hell is a disservice to all Christians. I think it lowers the sacrifice Christ made for us because it deemphasizes what He was saving us FROM.

10,462 posted on 11/05/2007 4:16:12 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper
Watering down the reality of hell is a disservice to all Christians. I think it lowers the sacrifice Christ made for us because it deemphasizes what He was saving us FROM.

It also removes the Justice from a Just God, and relegates the likes of Adolf Hitler to a peaceful eternal death after passing in the arms of Eva Braun.

10,465 posted on 11/05/2007 4:22:26 PM PST by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; kosta50
Watering down the reality of hell is a disservice to all Christians. I think it lowers the sacrifice Christ made for us because it deemphasizes what He was saving us FROM.

Amen, FK. To understand God's true love for us one has to understand what precisely we are saved from and why. But it's not only that. To ignore hell is to deny fundamental principles set forth by the fathers and spoken of directly by our Lord Jesus. It is difficult to repent when you don't understand why you should repent.

10,470 posted on 11/05/2007 4:58:36 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; kosta50
Yes, exactly. Before FR, I had no idea there was anything wrong with Protestant leaders like Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, et al. I saw Osteen a couple of weeks ago on Larry King Alive and just shook my head through the whole thing. Hell is erased

Christ revealed the Good News, not the "bad news." The whole focus of Christ's ministry is salvation, not condmenation; the Kingdom of Heaven and not Hell. It's an optimistic and joyful religion, FK. I highly recommend it.

10,489 posted on 11/05/2007 7:28:25 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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