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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; kosta50
Yes, exactly. Before FR, I had no idea there was anything wrong with Protestant leaders like Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, et al. I saw Osteen a couple of weeks ago on Larry King Alive and just shook my head through the whole thing. Hell is erased

Christ revealed the Good News, not the "bad news." The whole focus of Christ's ministry is salvation, not condmenation; the Kingdom of Heaven and not Hell. It's an optimistic and joyful religion, FK. I highly recommend it.

10,489 posted on 11/05/2007 7:28:25 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; HarleyD
Christ revealed the Good News, not the "bad news." The whole focus of Christ's ministry is salvation, not condemnation; the Kingdom of Heaven and not Hell.

Are you kidding? Christ revealed ALL the news meant for us from Him, not only the good. How can anyone appreciate what the Good News means without a clear understanding of what the bad news is? He cannot. How many lost people do you think are walking around out there simply because they do not perceive any need for God? Dozens, hundreds, thousands, millions, more? I'd say it's more. One of the main reasons they don't or won't accept the Good News is that they have no comprehension of the bad news (by God's design of course :). This is why I think it is so dangerous to sugar coat what hell IS and MEANS. If every person had a clear understanding of the hell that is portrayed in the Bible, there would be VERY few unbelievers.

It's an optimistic and joyful religion, FK. I highly recommend it.

"Optimistic and joyful religion[s]" are what Warren and Osteen preach. Instead of that, my pastor preaches a personal one-on-one relationship with Christ. Optimism and joy are wonderful and Godly things, no doubt. But when they supplant the truth of the word of God, then it becomes false teaching.

10,502 posted on 11/06/2007 3:42:37 AM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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