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To: stfassisi
Do you believe that God creates any person to NOT be His Children?

Do you believe Jesus atoned for everyone without exception?

....Or do you believe that God creates and wills "all" of us to be His children?

What makes you think man born of Adam has a free will to choose God?

Another words...We have to freely accept God’s will

Is man born of Adam, born with a sin nature and love of sin and darkness, of the capacity to freely accept God's Will?

because we love God’s will

John 3:

3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Man born of Adam is predisposed to serving himself and sin, and will not seek God, nor will he believe God.

John 3:

19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

10,453 posted on 11/05/2007 2:34:17 PM PST by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey; kosta50; jo kus
What makes you think man born of Adam has a free will to choose God?

Man can Choose God or NOT to Choose God by free will.

Did man freely crucify Christ? Of course man freely crucified Christ! Christ did not crucify Himself. Thus, man can "choose" or not "choose" God freely

God gave man power only "once" to do anything to Him,and man chose to use their free will to crucify Him.

Man has a free will! Don't you see the error you're making?

Its been a long day for me, so I'm checking out

I wish you peace.

10,463 posted on 11/05/2007 4:17:36 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey; stfassisi
Do you believe Jesus atoned for everyone without exception?

Of course. He gave every human a chance to be redeemed. He did not force His redmeption on anyone.

What makes you think man born of Adam has a free will to choose God?

Try Deuteronomy 30:19 "Now choose life, so that you and your children may live."

Had God not revealed Himself to man, man could not choose life. But our Lord and Savior appeared to us in human nature and gave us a choice. For a choice to be true the will to choose has to be free.

men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil [John 3:19]

Mankind did forget about God after the fall. The Bible is clear about that. And But in His love for mankind, God chose to reveal Himself to us so that we may come to Him by following Him on our own free accord.

10,483 posted on 11/05/2007 6:55:04 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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