[Kolokotronis]

Tertullian was a heretic and the Latins, as in other matters, are simply wrong. The quoted position is from the Middle Ages after Rome broke from the other Patriarchates. Rome picked up a lot of odd stuff after the Great Schism. Some of those oddities lead to the Reformation. More later; off to an Armenian dance where I can say all the bad things about Turks I want!

[kosta50]

off to an Armenian dance where I can say all the bad things about Turks I want!

Darn, and I wasn't invited! :)

[HarleyD]

Tertullian was a heretic and the Latins, as in other matters, are simply wrong. The quoted position is from the Middle Ages after Rome broke from the other Patriarchates. Rome picked up a lot of odd stuff after the Great Schism.

So Irenaesus and Tertullian are heretics for believing in the immortality of all souls??? Tertullian lived from 155-230AD. Irenaesus lived about the same time. And let's not forget the Apostle Creed of the 6th/7th century;

"I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic8 Church; the communion of saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body [flesh]; and the life everlasting. Amen."

If memory serves me correctly the Orthodox were still part of the Church when all this was happening. The schism didn't take place until around 1000+ AD.

Did it ever occur to you that the eastern church fathers who gave you this material could have been the heretics?