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To: HarleyD

It may be that we are saying the same thing here, HD. The Fathers did not teach that the soul was by its nature immortal (and certainly not eternal and pre-existent). You’ve cited to +Iraeneus. Here’s what he said:

“Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Saviour, and King...may, in the exercise of His grace, confer immortality on the righteous, and holy, and those who have kept His commandments.”

No natural immortality there, HD. Note who gets immortality. Most of the Fathers spoke to this and quite clearly. Dr. Boyce’s article, at least insofar as he speaks of immortality of the soul, isn’t even remotely in accord with what the Fathers taught, but then again, the joyous (for some) prospect of truly eternal and unspeakable torment for the innocent non-elect couldn’t be enjoyed if the souls of the wicked are not immortal.


10,352 posted on 11/03/2007 12:56:06 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
You’ve cited to +Iraeneus. Here’s what he said:... No natural immortality there, HD.

Dr. Boyce’s article, at least insofar as he speaks of immortality of the soul, isn’t even remotely in accord with what the Fathers taught,


10,356 posted on 11/03/2007 1:27:02 PM PDT by HarleyD
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