Posted on 07/13/2007 7:28:01 PM PDT by restornu
CTR
Well, St. Paul set the standard. “If anyone comes to with a gospel other than the one I preach, even an angel” etc. So let’s see if someone comes up to you with golden tablets and wings and subtle (or radical) changes to the gospel and its theology/christology, you’re still supposed to say, “uh no thanks.”
That said, the church fathers raised the bar a little higher. Even translators of the bible who twist the meanings from the original traditions(i.e gnostics, et. al.) are anathema (c.f. Tertullian)
Pretty clearly, therefore, Mohammed, Charles Taze Russell, L. Ron Hubbard, and other “new religion” founders would be “not Christian.”
Sorry Mr. Card.
I vote according to a person’s political beliefs and his personal trustworthiness and character. Theology is not a political issue. So this is interesting and everything (Mormons are not Christians in any orthodox sense of the term), but it is too bad he ended it the way he did. I find Romney politically untrustworthy and that’s why I will not vote for him.
If you honestly study Gal 1 you will see Paul talked about his time as he conversed with the Lord who altered Paul that his words were being changed as they spoke and than Paul said that he received the Lord's Gospel directly.
Gal 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ
The Lord is speaking currently not in the future but Paul's present.
So, according to you, Paul wrote the Revelation of St. John the Divine?
Since the god of Mormonism is not the God of the Bible, Mormonism is not, by definition, Christian...it is not orthodox.
You are assigning your personal assumptions to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints which still does not make it so no matter how many join you!:)
Is the Trinity Biblical?
Oh, oh, oh, I know the answer to this question.
It’s Shirley Dobson.
“In fact, as I looked around the table, I realized that I was the only person in that room who believed that Jesus is the Savior of the world, the Son of God, and that God created humankind in his image for the purpose of bringing us to a joyful reunion with him, after we had learned to control the desires of the flesh and turn our lives over to him, and after the grace of Christ has cleansed us of our guilt for the many sins we have committed.”
Hey, that’s what I believe, too. Yahoo!
Sure is!
Question: Are Elohim and Jesus of the same essence with the Holy Spirit?
I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is my personal Savior and the Savior of the whole world. Heavenly Father sent His Son Jesus Christ to suffer and die for me and the Holy Ghost tells me it’s true. Now, when you say that I do not believe in the same God as you do, what exactly do you mean? Are you saying that the same Jesus Christ who died for you did not die for me?
I love my Church. I was baptized in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
I am sick and tired of people telling me what they have heard about Mormons - repeating stuff that is not true. But it’s a free country.
I have a question for you: What would Jesus do? I suppose you think He would fashion a whip and beat me to death with it. My Jesus loves and cares for me and I love Him with all my heart. He is the way, the truth and the life. No man, or woman for that matter, will return to Heavenly Father except by Him, Jesus Christ.
You think I’m deceived and I am worried about you. I guess we’re even. Only God knows our hearts.
I have been studying the LDS for over thirty years...I am not ignorant of your teaching.
Thank you for posting this. I enjoyed reading it. Very insightful.
Many’s the time during LDS meetings and events when members of our Church have complimented the faith and service of people from other Churches - for example Mother Theresa, who was just about as perfect as a Christian can be.
I was very touched last General Conference when President Faust told us to look to the Amish community as an example to follow regarding forgiveness.
There’s a lady I know who’s a Baptist and she is a real good person, a sweetheart. One day she said to me, “You’re not a Christian.” After I explained that I believe that Jesus Christ died to save me from my sins, that He is my Savior, she apologized. We are Sisters in Christ.
CTR.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God; He said so and that’s good enough for me. I believe the Bible. Jesus laid it all out there for us.
Elohim is God the Father and Jehovah of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ.
And this is exactly where orthodox Christianity differs with LDS...biblical Christianity teaches that Elohim and YHWH (Jehovah is a non-word)are one in the same - two of many names for God. They are not two different Persons.
There are even times when God is called YHWH Elohim.
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