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"Not a Rejection of the Council" - Interview with Pres. Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei
Inside the Vatican ^ | July 9, 2007 | Andrea Tornielli

Posted on 07/09/2007 11:32:33 AM PDT by NYer

In the Sunday, July 8, 2007 edition of Il Giornale, the respected Italian journalist, Andrea Tornielli, who has also written for Inside the Vatican, published the following interview with the President of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos, on the main aspects of Summorum Pontificum. The Ecclesia Dei commission is the body entrusted with overseeing the implementation of the "motu proprio."

What meaning does the Pope's decision have?

"The Pontiff's letter is clear. It is a decision which comes from the heart and from the mind of a Pope who loves and knows liturgy well. He wishes that the heritage represented by the ancient liturgy be preserved, without this representing any contradiction with the new Mass. Thousands of letters arrived in Rome from those who asked for the freedom to be able to participate in the old rite."

There have been those who said that Ratzinger thus "rejected" the Council...

"Benedict XVI has not walked or will walk, in any way or expression, on a path which is different from that indicated by the Council. The new Mass remains the ordinary Roman Rite. There is nothing in the motu proprio or in the papal letter which signals a minimal deviation from the Council. It may be appropriate to recall that Vatican II did not forbid the ancient Mass, which was celebrated by the Conciliar Fathers during sessions. No rejection, no offense. It is an encounter with the demands of groups of faithful, an act of liberality."Is it an act of continuity or rupture in comparison to the Montini and Wojtyla pontificates?

"There is no contraposition. Paul VI granted the possibility to celebrate with the old rite soon after the coming into effect of the new Missal and Pope Wojtyla intended to prepare a Motu proprio similar to the one now promulgated."

Is the authority of the Bishop undermined?

"Those who have argued [so], have done so based on a prejudice, because the role of the Bishop rests assured, canon law does not change. It is the competence of the pastor of the diocese to coordinate the liturgy, in harmony with the supreme orderer, who is the Pope. In case of problems, the Bishop will intervene, always in agreement with the dispositions established by the motu proprio. I am certain that the pastoral sensibility of Bishops will find the way to favor the unity of the Church, helping to avoid a schism."

How do we deal with the Holy Friday prayer for the Jews?

"The authorized Missal is that of 1962, promulgated by John XXIII, in which the expression 'perfidis iudaeis' and 'iudaica perfidia' had already been removed."

[...]

Do you predict difficulties? "I am not aware, in the History of the Church, of any moment in which important decisions have been taken without difficulty. But I strongly hope that they may be coped with and overcome, with the approach suggested by the Pope in his letter."

After this decision, the end of the rupture with the Lefebvrists is closer? "With this Motu proprio, the door is widely opened [si spalanca la porta] for a return of the Fraternity of Saint Pius X to full communion. If, after this act, the return does not take place, I truly will not be able to comprehend. I wish to clarify, though, that the papal document has not been made for the Lefebvrists, but because the Pope is convinced of the need to underline that there is a continuity in the Tradition, and that in the Church one does not move forward by way of fractures. The ancient Mass has never been abolished nor forbidden." [Andrea Tornielli]


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Worship
KEYWORDS: hoyos; motuproprio; tridentine; vatican
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To: NYer
Our pastor pulls the two front pews forward to where altar rails would normally be and we use the kneelers attached to the back of these pews for Communion.
21 posted on 07/09/2007 3:59:41 PM PDT by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: Pyro7480

**They reserve the front row for the distribution of Communion**

That’s an excellent suggestion. I like it.


22 posted on 07/09/2007 4:14:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: bschmitt78

I always understood that we were bowing our heads to the Holy Eucharist — Jesus Christ. Not the priest or deacon.


23 posted on 07/09/2007 4:17:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: franky1

**St Patrick’s Cathedral Church in Harrisburg, PA just reinstalled the altar rail.**

Looks like they are ahead of the pack. Congratulations!


24 posted on 07/09/2007 4:23:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: franky1

**People who had trouble climbing steps would find it hard to get to the altar rail. He recommended instead that the altar rail be put on the people’s side of the bottom step. Let the priest climb up and down, but allow even people who have trouble with stairs to reach the altar rail.**

I agree with you. It would work for me.


25 posted on 07/09/2007 4:24:44 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
Il Giornale: all sacraments, not just Mass (Motu Proprio)

Check out #14 on the list!

26 posted on 07/09/2007 4:27:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer; All

**How do we deal with the Holy Friday prayer for the Jews?

“The authorized Missal is that of 1962, promulgated by John XXIII, in which the expression ‘perfidis iudaeis’ and ‘iudaica perfidia’ had already been removed.”88

Why” All it does is pray FOR them, nothing agsist them at all. I will try to find it. Should be here somewhere.


27 posted on 07/09/2007 4:29:56 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; NYer; american colleen; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ...

General Intercessions on Good Friday:

For the Church
For the Pope
For the clegy and laity of the Church
For those preparing for baptism
For the united of Christians
For the Jewish people
Let us pray
for the Jewish people,
the first to hear the word of God,
that they may contine to grow in the love of his name

(Silent Prayer)

Alnight and eternal God,
long afo you gave your promise to Abraham and his posterity.
Listen to your Church as we pray
that the people you first made your own
may arrive at the fullness of redemtion
We ask this through Christ our Lord.
Amen.

For those who do not believe in Christ
For those who do not believe in God
For all in public office
For those in special need

Prayer ping to all.


28 posted on 07/09/2007 4:48:36 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: everyone

OK, everyone, tell me what is so objectionable about that??

I think it is just something to hit the Catholic Church with.


29 posted on 07/09/2007 4:50:17 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Does “For the united of Christians” refer to the Protestants?


30 posted on 07/09/2007 4:53:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NeoCaveman

But you do need kneelers.


31 posted on 07/09/2007 5:00:29 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: wagglebee
Does “For the united of Christians” refer to the Protestants?

I think they mean "for the unity of Christians" and yes, that means Protestants and other Christians.

32 posted on 07/09/2007 5:01:43 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (take my governor, please)
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To: sageb1
But you do need kneelers.

For the women and children, at least. They do make portable ones. It would be cheaper to buy some of those rather than put in a rail.

33 posted on 07/09/2007 5:02:32 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (take my governor, please)
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To: NeoCaveman; wagglebee

You are right, neoC.

Should have been unity of Christians. My typing error. (Since I found an old missallette insert and typed it................LOL!


34 posted on 07/09/2007 5:04:56 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

I got it on good authority from a conservative Jewish freeper that she doesn’t mind if we pray for her at all. :)


35 posted on 07/09/2007 5:06:36 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Salvation; NeoCaveman

That’s what I thought, I wasn’t sure if it was a translation error or a typo.


36 posted on 07/09/2007 5:07:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NeoCaveman

Our church just decided to remove all kneelers because they were in a state of disrepair and too expensive to fix, evidently.


37 posted on 07/09/2007 5:08:01 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

That’s good to know. I think the American bishops need to know this.


38 posted on 07/09/2007 5:13:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sageb1
Our church just decided to remove all kneelers because they were in a state of disrepair and too expensive to fix, evidently.

It's funny (too me) that you mention that. My parish, a poor innercity parish where the kneeler pads are so old and hard they are now asking us to all pony up $100 for new pads. Since we are a parish, the only one in the diocese, with the Tridentine Mass, I'll kick in my part. Can't imagine what full blown kneelers, not pads, would cost.

39 posted on 07/09/2007 5:16:33 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (take my governor, please)
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To: franky1
When I visited St. John the Baptist in Front Royal, Va last summer they were in the process of building an altar rail!
40 posted on 07/09/2007 5:20:50 PM PDT by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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