What about them? For someone who is so hostile towards Mormonism, you don’t seem to realize the faith has a tiered eschatology that is a lot more charitable and humane than others who condemn the majority of humanity to endless torture in hell. Anyone who professes faith in Christ and lives in accordance with his wishes has salvation - he or she will go to heaven. However, those who want to receive the fullness of God’s blessings, which confers divine sonship by Grace (i.e., exaltation, becoming Gods), will need to join his church, receive all the necessary ordinances, and maintain faithfulness until the end. These select few move on to the next stage of evolution so to speak.
Everyone will have a chance to be exalted. There are untold millions of the righteous who will refuse, and prefer to stay where they are, enjoying companionship with Christ in heaven (what we call the Terrestial Kingdom). Whatever you consider heaven to be - the most wonderful place imaginable - that’s the Terrestrial Kingdom. A place of eternal bliss.
The Celestial Kingdom is higher and different - it is also a place of eternal bliss but it is a place that allows eternal progression. Those eligible to be exalted develop, grow, and metamorphoses into replicas of the exalted Christ. They receive both the blessings of divinity as well as the responsibility that goes with it. To say nothing about the pain of seeing one’s spirit children rebel and suffer as well as the fecund joy when they succeed and are happy themselves.
Lookit, if you don’t want to be exalted, who’s forcing you? You don’t have to join the Mormon church in order to be saved and go to heaven. Stay where you are, have faith in Christ and live righteously. You will be judged and be blessed with eternal bliss in heaven. Why get upset just because we call this heaven the Terrestrial Kingdom and believe in the Celestial Kingdom and exaltation?
As for those who refuse to accept Christ but live righteously, they will also go to a heaven, but the Telestial Kingdom, a lower heaven where they will not associate with Christ. Frankly, I don’t see what the big deal is if they go to a heaven and enjoy eternal bliss - if they rejected Christ when they had a chance; why would they want to live with him for all eternity? At least we don’t condemn the righteous unbeliever to unending torture in hell.
Read what I wrote about the apostasy - it simply means loss of genuine authority. It doesn’t mean those belonging to apostate churches are all evil and will be punished for all eternity.
Lastly, Mormonism believes God created this entire universe but he himself originated from an ancestral universe, which originated from an earlier universe, ad infinitum. The universes and “Gods” (all-good entities capable of manipulating reality and create universes according to their desires) stretch back into infinity. IOW, it’s an infinitely long chain without beginning and without end.
Please read what I wrote on the subject for further clarification http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/bicycleroad/21/id76.htm
No creator, endless universes, back in time infinitely. Atheism. Wrap as many words around it as you like but you’ve been fooled about the nature of God. I can breed cattle and give them a place to live with shade and trees and water. I’m not the cow’s God. See the Book of Daniel, when even a beast looked upward to the true God who commands ALL things.
If you refuse to accept Christ, there is no other Salvation because only by the wooing of the Holy Spirit can you have the opportunity to accept or refuse Christ, thus if you refuse that which the Holy Spirit brings to your soul you have committed the unpardonable sin of rejecting God's Salvation. There is no other Salvation, no water baptism by proxy, no other savior. The spirit of antichrist proclaims exactly what you spewed. May God have mercy upon your immortal soul, Ed. You are beyond heresies now, you are blaspheming what Jesus taught and the Spirit gave witness in the New Testament.
Despite this, I firmly believe its the true church and if it isnt, then there is no true church on the earth, and probably no God either.
Then this post...and your words again.
Lookit, if you dont want to be exalted, whos forcing you? You dont have to join the Mormon church in order to be saved and go to heaven. Stay where you are, have faith in Christ and live righteously
Wait a minute......are you really saying, us mere Christians will not be exalted in God's eyes?
And to top it off....if Mormonism is false..then there's no God?
BTW, is there only one God?
Being cut off from Christ is hell Edward not heaven. A life without anything good from the hand of God ever. Mormon's call hell heaven. That is a big problem.
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself adelivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I bsaw two cPersonages, whose brightness and dglory defy all description, estanding above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My fBeloved gSon. Hear Him!18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)and which I should join.19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself alying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, bmother inquired what the matter was. I replied, Never mind, all is wellI am well enough off. I then said to my mother, I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.
HOSTILE?
HERE's hostility!!
The Celestial Kingdom is higher and different - it is also a place of eternal bliss but it is a place that allows eternal progression. Those eligible to be exalted develop, grow, and metamorphoses into replicas of the exalted Christ. They receive both the blessings of divinity as well as the responsibility that goes with it. To say nothing about the pain of seeing ones spirit children rebel and suffer as well as the fecund joy when they succeed and are happy themselves.
Lookit, if you dont want to be exalted, whos forcing you? You dont have to join the Mormon church in order to be saved and go to heaven. Stay where you are, have faith in Christ and live righteously. You will be judged and be blessed with eternal bliss in heaven. Why get upset just because we call this heaven the Terrestrial Kingdom and believe in the Celestial Kingdom and exaltation?
As for those who refuse to accept Christ but live righteously, they will also go to a heaven, but the Telestial Kingdom, a lower heaven where they will not associate with Christ.
I do wish you would make up your mind!