"Spirit of Vatican II" Joke

[Macoraba]

Did you hear why the liberals want to take down all the EXIT signs in the church? Because they're in Latin!

True story. A number of years ago I asked the parish choir director if we could sing KYRIE rather than "Lord Have Mercy". And she told me no that since Vatican II everything had to be in English.

I then contacted the ultra liberal head of the diocese liturgical office - a nun - and she told me that singing KYRIE would be okay.

[kosta50]

she told me no that since Vatican II everything had to be in English.

That's not true. She never read Vatican II proceedings.

then contacted the ultra liberal head of the diocese liturgical office - a nun - and she told me that singing KYRIE would be okay

Perhaps because Kyrie is Greek, not Latin?

[gemma0000]

It is Greek. Kyrie eleison is the only Greek phrase in the traditional Latin Mass. btw, the novus ordo did to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass what McDonalds did to the cheeseburger. It's faster, convenient, popular and contains very little real meat.

[kosta50]

novus ordo did to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass what McDonalds did to the cheeseburger. It's faster, convenient, popular and contains very little real meat

LOL!!! Sure seems that way. Some would say, it's a very poor diet.

[ELS]

Perhaps because Kyrie is Greek, not Latin?

Or perhaps because Vatican II did not say that everything had to be in the vernacular?

[kosta50]

Or perhaps because Vatican II did not say that everything had to be in the vernacular?

That's correct. Se my post #2.

[ichabod1]

I feel like I’m supposed to go to mass in the morning.

[ELS]

She never read Vatican II proceedings.

That is very likely true. The Mass according to the Roman Missal of 1962 is actually much closer to what Vatican II said than the average Mass according to the Roman Missal of 1969/2002.

Hopefully, with the release of the Motu Proprio, traditional Catholics can begin to fight this spiritual battle without one or both of our hands tied behind our back. May the "Spirit of Vatican II" return to the pit of hell where it came from.

[tewter]

Kyrie eleison, Christe eleison, Kyrie eleison are indeed Greek, but not the only Greek in the Traditional Liturgy. On Good Friday the choir chants in Greek and Latin alternately: Hagios o Theos, Sanctus Deus, Hagios ischyros, Sanctus fortis, Hagios o Theos athanatos eleison imas, Sanctus immortalis miserere nobis. This takes place during the singing of the reproaches, which is never done in most Novus Ordo parishes any more, and where it is done, not in Latin and Greek but in the vernacular.

Catholics devoted to the Divine Mercy will recognize these words as the closing of the chaplet: Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy immortal One, have mercy on us! It amazes me that Our Lord gave this prayer to the Church before the same prayer recited on Good Friday was condemned to oblivion after Vatican II. It is also a prayer God gave to St. Anthony Mary Claret during adoration of the Holy Eucharist. God asked St. Anthony to have all the Catholics in Spain say this prayer often, which he did in the many retreats he preached all over Spain. This was in the 1800s. Maybe somebody in Spain can say whether this practice died out or not in families over the years.