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To: kosta50
Innovation? Hardly. You need to re-read that part again. Christ says "I will give you..." [that's future tense] and then He gives it to all two chapters later.

I'd think Jesus would have used the instruction in John 10 to be more clear about men being given authority, if His intent was to give men total authority in the way men were claiming it centuries later.

The reference to feeding the sheep has to do with +Peter's tripple betrayal, not about giving the keys.

Yet, some of your Catholic brothers have used it in the way I described, where only Peter was specifically charged with the task of feeding the sheep.

238 posted on 06/20/2007 8:24:10 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
I'd think Jesus would have used the instruction in John 10 to be more clear about men being given authority

They were given authority to bind and loose, and whatever they decide the same shall be done in haven. How much more explicit does it have to be.

if His intent was to give men total authority in the way men were claiming it centuries later.

It sure sounds that way.  Sacraments are binding. And only validly ordained priesthood has that authority.

Yet, some of your Catholic brothers have used it in the way I described, where only Peter was specifically charged with the task of feeding the sheep.

He was the elder brother to the Apostles, but not their lord. As the oldest among them, he was given more responsibility but not more authority.  We consider the Bishop of Rome very much in the same light.

Traditionally, the East always looked at the Bishop of Rome as the "elder" brother who was charged with universal pastoral role, but not universal jurisdiction.

276 posted on 06/20/2007 8:39:34 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: GoLightly
Yet, some of your Catholic brothers have used it in the way I described, where only Peter was specifically charged with the task of feeding the sheep.

Catholic Brothers? Followers of heresy are followers of heresy period. Anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt and a gallon of praying for discernment in the form of the Holy Spirit.
277 posted on 06/20/2007 9:30:40 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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