Posted on 06/18/2007 12:22:11 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to re-marry.
If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.
If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
If you are Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England, founded by Samuel Senbury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1606.
If you are of the Dutch Reformed Church, you recognize Mic helis Jones as founder because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.
If you are a Methodist, your religion was founded by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1774.
If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, New York, in 1829.
If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.
If you are Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as "Church of the Nazarene, Pentecostal Gospel," "Holiness Church," or "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past hundred years.
If you are Roman Catholic, your church shared the same rich apostolic and doctrinal heritage as the Orthodox Church for the first thousand years of its history, since during the first millennium they were one and the same Church. Lamentably, in 1054, the Pope of Rome broke away from the other four Apostolic Patriarchates (which include Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem), by tampering with the Original Creed of the Church, and considering himself to be infallible. Thus your church is 1,000 years old.
If you are Orthodox Christian, your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It has not changed since that time. Our church is now almost 2,000 years old. And it is for this reason, that Orthodoxy, the Church of the Apostles and the Fathers is considered the true "one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church."
This is the greatest legacy that we can pass on to the young people of the new millennium.
These type of posts always cause arguments, are they really necessary.
No. The Roman Catholic Church in Britain dates to 303 AD.
The “Anglican” Church was born in Henry VIII’s codpiece! (HUMOR):)
I think you are wrong. The evidence doesn’t hold up.
Descriptions of the Church in NT writings look nothing like your religion.
possibly the Church of Sweden as well
Debate is good.
The earliest recorded Liturgy was instituted by St. Justin Martyr in 68 AD.
Whoop de do. I believe I said your religion looks nothing like NT writings.
I got an interesting email the other day, too. A wealthy foreigner needs help getting millions out of a Nigerian bank account, and he promised me a healthy cut if I let him use my bank account to do it.
I expect my email is about as factual and reliable as yours.
A few months before that, I ran into a Jack Chick tract that claimed only the Baptists could.
Frankly, the level of scholarship between this email, the other email, and the Jack Chick tract were all the same. Absolutely worthless.
That is, according to your church...However, when the bible is believed as written, one doesn't see the Catholic church except in the pagan worship and the worship of the queen of heaven...
Anybody who's interested can google "world's oldest religion" or "world's first religion." There are a lot of claimants, but the animists or shamanists make a pretty good case.
St. Justin martyr lived in the 2nd century. he describes the (Greek language) litrugy in Rome in the middle of the 2nd century.
the earliest Divine Liturgy is believed that of +James (the Just) of Jerusalem. Orthodox liturgies from the 4th cen 5th century (+Basil's and +Chrysostom's) are very much related and an obvious outgrowth of the original.
Lack of original liturgical text makes it difficult to date. It is known, however, that in the 3rd century it was brought into conformity with the trinitarian doctrine of the Church. It contains lots of readings ansd references to the OT (the reason being is tha, it is speculated, at the time it was written the New Testament hasn't been written yet), which would place it around the middle of the 1st century. Others date is much later (3rd century).
Nonetheless, the description of St. Justin Martyr shows that the Euchairstic nature of the divine service was known to the Church from the earliest roots.
This is further corroborated by Didache (c. 70 AD), so much so that together with the DL of +James there is plenty of evidence that the liturgical life of the Church existed from the earliest days and was concentrated on the Eucharistic Real Presence.
We base it on the traditions of the fathers, handed down through oral interpretation.
I was given a copy of this about 15 years ago, from a Ukrainian Orthodox priest. I also remember that Ann Landers printed something similar to this from the Roman Catholic perspective.
Thank you for your responses.
Freegards
Why doesn't the Church we can read about in the New Testament resembles the Orthodox Church in its organization and doctrine. If is is the same ?
john the baptist would no doubt have drank wine at the wedding at Cana and the last supper had he been present, something baptists wouldn’t.
You have refrences?
it perfectly resembles it and archaeological evidence has backed this up; the folks who wrote the new testament practiced as the orthodox do.
Does the Orthodox church keep holy Shabbat? Does the Orthodox church celebrate Succoth ? Does the Orthodox church celebrate the new moon ? Then I guess that it is not the "called out ones" of Yah'shua,Does the Orthodox church celebrate Passover ?
b'shem Yah'shua
but is of man-made traditions of later times.
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