[GoLightly]

The tag is; “Christ the victim, Christ the priest.” BOTH offerER and offerED. Is that less intolerable?

Not really. If you're saying it in the sense that our sinful ways made Him our victim, I don't see it as something to celebrate, so asking us to join in it again along with Mary makes NO sense. That He suffered at our hands, no doubt, but seeing Him as our victim because of it, like I said, it's giving us too much power.

[Mad Dawg]

I never thought of this as anything but an oecumenical slogan. It's not a "tag" I'm arguing for, just one I grew up with as an Episcopalian. He offers himself as sacrificial victim, the lamb of God which taketh away etc.

If you're saying it in the sense that our sinful ways made Him our victim, I don't see it as something to celebrate,

Well that we needed the sacrifice is dolorous. That he offered himself is something to celebrate. The sorrow of the Friday we call "Good" is swallowed up in the joy of the Resurrection.

I think there may be some sort of missing each other on the term "victim". In this context one side of the metaphor is, as I say, the sacrificial victim, the goat or turtledove or whatever, but, of course, in His case, Lamb who is slain as a sin-offering. Hebrews and Leviticus are going to be the places to hang out.

This is sort of "pre-" to Eucharistic doctrine. I'm really astonished that this is an issue.