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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Since stigmatas (stigmati?) are a Romanist misconception, wrongly founded on individual, visual representations of blood and suffering (a RC preoccupation) I'd say by the grace of God, none.

Stigmatas are not "misconceptions" or conceptions. Concepts exist in our minds. Stigmata are wounds on a person's body. Were St. Padre Pio's stigmata, which he bore for 50 years (1918-1968), of the devil? If so, why did he (and St. Francis of Assisi) live such holy lives?

Some videos about St. Padre Pio can be viewed here and here. Here is a video of his last mass.

-A8

200 posted on 06/11/2007 3:57:39 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8; Dr. Eckleburg
I've listened to your recordings. Anyone who states that Padre Pio healed them has their doctrine completely befundled and runs countered to scripture. Whether this is the work of the devil or the work of man is difficult to tell but God is not the author of confusion.

Some would say that Benny Hill is a godly man and miracle worker as well. I'm sure the Catholic Church isn't about to declare him a saint. Would you say his work is from the devil?

207 posted on 06/11/2007 4:45:40 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: adiaireton8
I see that & I think of the book of Job, with the parts of the stuff going on behind the scene hidden from my view. If the only thing you can see is all of Job’s suffering & Job maintaining his faith despite it, you might question Job’s sanity. Thing is, we *have* been shown what’s going on behind the scenes, so we know that Job isn’t actually crazy.

You’re probably wondering what that has to do with Stigmatas. It has to do with the way Satan is gonna work to defeat God & His followers, but also the reason God would let him mess with some of His very worthy servants.

From the standpoint of Satan, what would be a better way to set up the placement of his minions in positions of power later, than to create “authorized” signs before he makes his final move? Would God let Satan do that? Look at everything God allowed Satan to do to His good servant Job. The why, God will deal with Satan in His own time & He ain't gonna let Satan force His hand.

235 posted on 06/11/2007 8:39:07 PM PDT by GoLightly
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