[Mad Dawg]

No one has ever said that Luther was a metaphysician.

Jumping in where angels wisely fear to tread: Luther said -- PLEASE don't ask me to look it up, I think that paper back fell apart about a decade ago -- that Aquinas misunderstood Aristotle. As far as I'm concerned anybody who says that is claiming to be a metaphysician, whether I agree with him or not.

(Are metaphysicians in my insurance-approved health provider group?)

[RobbyS]

What I said was that no one has said the Luther was reliable as a philosopher. As far as St. Thomas is concerned, Luther was hardly an expert. Remember that Cajetan, his first real interlocutor, was the leading Thomist of the age, and from what I have read, he said that Luther just didn’t “get it.” Luther’s strength was in rhetoric, not philosophy. As a rhetorian he was the equal of Cicero.