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To: kosta50
This comes mainly from the fact that Orthodoxy treats the Eucharist as real Presence and change from brea dnad wine into true Body and Blood, but wihtout elaboration or suggestion as to whta the mechanism of that is.

Lutherans treat the Eucharist as real Presence and the bread and wine changes into true Body and Blood, but without elaboration or suggestion as to what the mechanism of that is. However, the visible elements are bread and wine.

133 posted on 06/11/2007 6:06:12 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Lutherans treat the Eucharist as real Presence and the bread and wine changes into true Body and Blood, but without elaboration or suggestion as to what the mechanism of that is. However, the visible elements are bread and wine.

My understanding is that consubstantiation implies that the Gifts remain bread and wine but that Christ's Body and Blood subsist within them. It's a four-element "Eucharist," which the Church never taught.

155 posted on 06/11/2007 8:49:47 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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