The Eucharist: The Lord's Supper

Catholic Biblical Apologetics ^ | July 23, 2004 | Paul Flanagan and Robert Schihl

[Mad Dawg]

I never thought of this as anything but an oecumenical slogan. It's not a "tag" I'm arguing for, just one I grew up with as an Episcopalian. He offers himself as sacrificial victim, the lamb of God which taketh away etc.

If you're saying it in the sense that our sinful ways made Him our victim, I don't see it as something to celebrate,

Well that we needed the sacrifice is dolorous. That he offered himself is something to celebrate. The sorrow of the Friday we call "Good" is swallowed up in the joy of the Resurrection.

I think there may be some sort of missing each other on the term "victim". In this context one side of the metaphor is, as I say, the sacrificial victim, the goat or turtledove or whatever, but, of course, in His case, Lamb who is slain as a sin-offering. Hebrews and Leviticus are going to be the places to hang out.

This is sort of "pre-" to Eucharistic doctrine. I'm really astonished that this is an issue.

[GoLightly]

I never thought of this as anything but an oecumenical slogan. It's not a "tag" I'm arguing for, just one I grew up with as an Episcopalian. He offers himself as sacrificial victim, the lamb of God which taketh away etc.

I can't say that I ever heard Him called a victim, sacrificial or otherwise. Lamb of God, yeah, got that. Victim, no can do.

Well that we needed the sacrifice is dolorous.

Yep.

That he offered himself is something to celebrate. The sorrow of the Friday we call "Good" is swallowed up in the joy of the Resurrection.

That he loves us enough to offer himself is so mind boggling, I'm awestruck. Words are failing me. Could be because I'm tired or could be because of the enormity of all He did.

I think there may be some sort of missing each other on the term "victim". In this context one side of the metaphor is, as I say, the sacrificial victim, the goat or turtledove or whatever, but, of course, in His case, Lamb who is slain as a sin-offering. Hebrews and Leviticus are going to be the places to hang out.

I know the reference. Sacrificial critters didn't have the power to zap those who were sacrificing them. He did & allowed us to do it to Him anyway.

This is sort of "pre-" to Eucharistic doctrine. I'm really astonished that this is an issue.

I wouldna acted shocked if I wasn't.