Posted on 06/10/2007 4:48:46 AM PDT by markomalley
He did! Good duck. Roll of the dice?
If it hadn't been Adam & Eve, someone else woulda prolly stepped up to the plate, specially when things started getting really crowded. Better duck. Roll of the dice?
There is no roll of dice for God. He know where everyone will be born, how we will live, how and when we will die, and where we will end up.
God did not make Adam and Eve in in His image and Likeness so that man can sin and fall. God saves those who repent.
The 3,000 converts going house to house? That’’s your surmise. In fact the first twelve chapters of the text narrowly focuses on the Twelve and their companions, from the Ascension onwards to about ther time of Agrippa’s death. We know that the Lord appeared not just to them, but to hundreds. Yet the news quickly spread beyond even this group and mostly through the normal paths of evangelization. Yet this is history seen by lightning flashes. Acts gives us a partial and very fragmentary account of the early Church. Sunday School lessons lead us to believe that we know a lot about Paul’s evangelizing , but Acts provides us only with “Cliff Notes” of almost twenty years of his life before he returned to Jerusalem to face the hysterical wrath of the Jewish leaders. His mission has torn the Dispersion apart, but we only quickly glimpse the results of his work as it appears in the eyes of the Jews.
God made them in His image, granted them free will, and knew what they would do with it.
Amen to your excellent post. (Col.2:23)
I agree.
He know where everyone will be born, how we will live, how and when we will die, and where we will end up.
Again, I agree. Did we choose the where & when, did God choose for us or was it a roll of the dice? If our free will is only limited by sin, you think where & when we are born is something that could be a matter of chance?
I doubt that I would be the same person I am, with the beliefs that I have if I had been born in say, Saudi Arabia. I'm pretty sure the same would be true for you. For us to have free will outside of just the sin factor would almost require for us to have made the choice of the where & when ourselves, don't you think?
I DID, but the son of a gun asked me what I meant by “work” and “do”!
I don't think saying something that is untrue in a discussion among alleged adults about tings of importance is the same as teasing. I don't know your brother and would hesitate to guess why he teased.
I'm assuming the term you all are talking about is transubstantiation. I am intrigued that you think it is okay for others to attack a belief and misrepresent a belief which they do not understand. I think it is contemptible. Yes, good may come of it, but it is still contemptible. I think it is a kind of lie to say, as though one knew it to be true, a thing which one hasn't taken serious trouble to ascertain. 1000 silverlings does not say, "As far as I can tell" or "to the best of my knowledge" or "It sure seems to me that ..." He makes his claim as though he knew it to be so, when he doesn't because it's not true. So I still think, whatever good may come of it, that it is negligent or malicious.
It is also sowing dissension. He could have asked. he could have said, "I've heard such and such. Is that so?" and we could have talked about the priest's role in a friendly way. But he chose to say something he did not know as though he knew it.
YES, good may have come of it. But it was not good to do.
And what’s your creative reason for ditching the bible?
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Who's ditching the bible? Not me!
Yes He did, which only shows that He would rather have man be free, even if disobedient, then obedient robots.
Good. Lets talk about the scripture supporting your tag line. Where does the bible say Mary was conceived without sin?
I don’t see the connection between my tag line and whether or not I’m ditching scripture. Maybe we’re not on the same page about (a) what ‘ditching Scripture’ might mean and (b)what Scripture says.
Not a matter of chance, a matter of -- choice! The choice of your parents. God didn't make that choice for them! What does God have to do with that? He foreknows what you and your parents and everyone on this earth will do by their choice. Knowing who will choose sin and who will repent, He knows who will be condemned and who will be saved. Thus, His foreknowledge is our predestiny. But it does not mean that His foreknowledge compels us to do what He wants us to do.
I doubt that I would be the same person I am, with the beliefs that I have if I had been born in say, Saudi Arabia. I'm pretty sure the same would be true for you. For us to have free will outside of just the sin factor would almost require for us to have made the choice of the where & when ourselves, don't you think?
If you are an addict to drugs or alcohol when you decide to get pregnant, and continue to use drugs an alcohol throughout the pregnancy, whose doing is that? God's or yours? And when the child is born addicted to drugs or alcohol, whose doing is that?
God permits evil because that's the price of freedom. But He also gave us reason and He gave us His Son so that we may not be slaves to sin and death. Some people would have Him spoon feed us as well. Sin begins with ingratitude. If we go to hell, it is our doing and not God's planning.
(Did I mention that I don’t think “gotcha” debate tactics work for serious religious discussion?)
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