Posted on 05/22/2007 6:24:41 PM PDT by NYer
I still have her hats. I'll have to have the right suit to wear with each one of them.
IF I lose another 20 pounds I will be able to fit into her black wool Chanel suit -- it has an adorable little hat that goes with it - a tiny black wool triangle with a little cloud of netting and a few jet spangles. It's cute.
Thank you! Good responses both.
It is NOT o.k. to wear a hat to church that says, "Well, HelLO there!"
I’m glad I’m not Orthodox.
When I was a girl, I had to cover my head in church and it felt demeaning. It made it seem as though there was something shameful about women that mandated our covering our heads. If other women want to cover their heads in church, that’s fine. But I’ll never wear a hat or veil in church again.
By the time that the new Code of Canon Law was issued in 1983, women covering their heads in public was no longer the cultural norm in Western countries. The Church’s decision to omit this requirement from the CCL was certainly not done to shock or offend anyone. Moreover, the Church has the authority to change rules such as this, especially since this particular requirement was not something essential to the nature of the liturgy. Times change. Get over it.
So if a woman does not cover her head in Church, she is not acknowledging that Christ is present or she is disobeying His Mother?
Please, if you want to wear a hat, mantilla, or veil, go right ahead. But don’t try to elevate yourself over those who don’t.
Ah, Chanel! And I did love those little tiny hats with the veils. I always dreamed of wearing those things, but unfortunately, by the time I got old enough to wear them, everybody else had dumped them and was wearing coveralls, sandals, and no bra. Such is life.
I don’t find it demeaning, but I do think it’s odd when people obsess on it, and that was one of the things I never liked about some of the Tridentine folks. Sometimes you’d think the main point of the liturgy was getting women to cover their heads.
It’s no longer something that people do in our society - of course, someday, it may again be common, who knows? - and wearing or not wearing a hat really doesn’t say a thing about one’s piety or faith. So unless the Muslims take over and force us all to wear garbage bags, I think it will remain optional for Christians.
which puts your at odds with Holy Scripture:
1Cr 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
1Cr 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
1Cr 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1Cr 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
1Cr 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
1Cr 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1Cr 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1Cr 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on [her] head because of the angels.
1Cr 11:11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
1Cr 11:12 For as the woman [is] of the man, even so [is] the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
1Cr 11:13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
I’m pretty sure I was a Catholic that was accidentally born into a Lutheran family, LOL!
And somebody else explaining why they cover their head is not attacking you . . . unless, again, you let it be so. Covering the head is a traditional sign of respect, not a sign of the subjugation of women, and adhering to an ancient custom is not saying that those who don't are disrespectful of Christ. Do as you like, but don't accuse others of attacking you when they've done no such thing.
I think your violent reaction ("something shameful about women" - "never wear a hat or veil in church again") has more to do with your personal feelings, maybe with your personal experience, than with the Church.
My grandmother was a little tiny person - I take after my dad's side of the family.
For $10, you've got to check this out.
That’s the one we have.
Yes, it was Miss Manners.
I think my hat says, “I bought this hat in 1999.” I’m thinking of asking my mother for a new hat for my birthday!
Amazon.com is the place to go for CDs and DVDs.
(Unless I stumble across it in the $4.99 bin at WalMart.)
It’s better than, “My grandmother bought this hat in 1953!”
My husband does the same thing.
I check movies out of the library :=).
Oh, I don’t know. Sounds like your grandmother had better taste (and more money) in 1953 than I’ll ever have.
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