On Fox News Fearless HLI Priest Takes on Sean Hannity (may be indebted for saving his soul)

LifeSite ^ | March 13, 2007 | John-Henry Westen

[FourtySeven]

Hmm, this changes my view of Hannity, at least a bit. How could he be so disrespectful to a priest? And indeed, how could he deny the teaching of the Church on contraception?

[Frank Sheed]

I am deeply distressed that Fr. Morris entered this fray. With the "problems" the Legionaries have had with regard to their founder, this statement defending Hannity without contacting Fr. Euteneuer for "fraternal correction" and then the rebuttal published by Fr. Euteneuer is akin to seeing Fr. Morris "fall on his sword."

What a revealing situation for both Hannity and for Fr. Morris!

[mockingbyrd]

Promoting abortion brings with it an automatic excommunication. Using a condom does not. However, Communion is not a universal right for Catholics. You must be in the state of grace and free from all serious sin. Using contracepives is a serious sin in the church. It is one out of many serious sins.

[Frank Sheed]

http://www.ewtn.com/library/PRIESTS/FR93103.TXT

You might want to have a gander at this rather long article before you judge. It places things in their proper perspective about "harmless contraception."

[Frank Sheed]

Have you ever heard of Onanism? Poor Onan was "smitten dead" by God. Mull that over.

[trisham]

Hmm, this changes my view of Hannity, at least a bit. How could he be so disrespectful to a priest? And indeed, how could he deny the teaching of the Church on contraception?

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I've never been a fan of Hannity, but I am shocked at his behaviour. I hope for his sake, his family and those for whom he is an influence that he takes Fr. Euteneuer's statements to heart.

[Eagle of Liberty]

Used correctly, contraception CANNOT lead to abortion. If there's no baby created, there's no baby to abort.

I think the point here is that if an unmarried teen is using contraception, that teen is having premarital sex, which is against Catholic teachings.

It seems to me that Sean has the view that it would be best for teens to abstain, but if they choose not to, it would be better for them to use contraception than to create an unwanted baby.

[paudio]

I'm still not convinced, but thank you anyway. I do have a question, however, how come we don't hear much about priest denying a pro death penalty Republican communion?

[xsmommy]

the Catholic Catechism permits of the death penalty in narrow circumstances. abortion is specifically proscribed.

[ArrogantBustard]

how come we don't hear much about priest denying a pro death penalty Republican communion?

For the same reason that we don't hear much about denying communion to combat soldiers (many of whom are Catholic), or to folks who have used lethal force in individual self-defense.

[Frank Sheed]

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06032005.html

[Frank Sheed]

Please read the link in #24. Tax-chick was so impressed that she is making copies to give to friends. It is a marvelous essay and really "nails" the conundrum.

[Salvation]

**So, according to this priest, having no problem with contraception is the same as supporting legal abortion? Both are the ground for denying communion?**

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                From the Catechism of the Catholic Church (click on the book for the link.)    

2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).

 

2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:

Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.

[Salvation]

**In publicly promoting contraception, Hannity may be leading others astray.**

Catechism of the Catholic Church and what it says about those who support abortion

What does this say about Sean Hannity?

[paudio]

Gotta go. Thank you All!

[Right in Wisconsin]

I believe he would deny communion on the basis of birth control other than condoms..although that is not specifically stated.

[Eagle of Liberty]

2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).

So, a woman getting her tubes tied or a man having a vasectomy are also prohibitted since they are "unacceptable means"? Periodic continence is the only allowable method for a married couple? What if a woman's doctor has told the woman that having further children will put her life at risk? Is the couple to abstain from sex since there is always a risk of getting pregnant when engaging in unprotected sex? And how will abstaining affect the marriage?

I can agree with abstaining before marriage. I can agree that abortion is wrong, but shouldn't the Church recognize some method by which a couple can decide when they have enough children, especially when having another child will possibly kill the mom, the child or both? Shouldn't the Church recognize a method that will not remove sex totally from marriage?

[trisham]

Wow. Can you believe it was written in 1993? Amazing. It's as relevant today as it was then. Sadly.

[mockingbyrd]

Because the death penalty is considered within the state's right to enforce. The Vatican objects to the way it is applied through out the world not to the concept of the death penalty itself.

Contraception is a perversion of a good. The death penalty is not an evil in and of itself.

Thank you for asking, I appreciate your efforts to better understand what Catholics believe.

[Salvation]

**I can agree with abstaining before marriage. I can agree that abortion is wrong, but shouldn't the Church recognize some method by which a couple can decide when they have enough children, especially when having another child will possibly kill the mom, the child or both? Shouldn't the Church recognize a method that will not remove sex totally from marriage?**

You are getting into an area called "INFORMED CONSCIENCE". I can't go there because I don't have to answer for YOUR actions. Only you and your spouse must answer.

(But I don't think Hannity has 8-12 children, do you? So, then this would not apply to him and his wife.