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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission; AnAmericanMother

Hello friends. Haraldr harðráði in old Icelandic means Harald Hard-buttocks. Yes, you've got that right. harðráði is a perjorative in some texts for a mean ruler and just as today it is in reference to a man's hind quarters.


41 posted on 03/09/2007 3:53:08 PM PST by Siobhan (Pray, pray, pray,)
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To: AnAmericanMother; GoLightly; blam

I should have said you can find the perjorative use of harðráði in the Sagas. Of course, this is a rare double entendre ... the "radt" as parliament is featured in a number of northern European languages...


46 posted on 03/09/2007 4:06:37 PM PST by Siobhan (Telling my beads ...)
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To: Siobhan
Whoa. I think somebody's been pulling your leg.

I actually took Icelandic for a semester, and my Icelandic dictionary says: "ráða (ræð; réð; ráðinn) v.t. advise; recommend; ráða e-m áð gera e-ð, advise s.o. to do s.t.; with dat. rule, govern." Nothing about bottoms anywhere.

It seems an obvious cognate with the Anglo-Saxon ræd and Middle English rede, all meaning the same thing - counsel or advice. I would think the Icelandic for the hinder parts would be a cognate of the A/S "buttuc" which means what it sounds like.

48 posted on 03/09/2007 4:14:21 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Siobhan; AnAmericanMother
"Haraldr harðráði in old Icelandic means Harald Hard-buttocks"

We say the same thing about people, as in:
"He's a real hard-ass." (Siobhan, isn't that Celtic for Johanne? Regards!)
57 posted on 03/09/2007 4:32:23 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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