And I HAVE read the Justin Martyr bit, a LOT in recent days. Have YOU mentioned how many people think that the statue he thinks is Simon is in fact a statue of a Sabine Diety?
What is up with this? Are we about the truth here or about selling a point of view by carelessly misrepresenting evidence? I am really astonished!
I wish you would understand it form my point of view. If I give a moment's credence to something you assert, somebody else comes up and shows me that I shouldn't have. YOU mention the menagerie of bones, and I don't challenge it but joke with you about it, thinking that the discovery of the body that I know about must have happened another time. Now I am embarrassed that I believed you! This is terrible scholarship, and I am just an ADHD wanna be!
Diego asserts that Strong says that tribe is the "preferred" meaning of ethnos. I go to HIS source and find that's not what it says at all! How can I ever trust you again?
I feel abused! maybe this is abusive of me, but I don't intend it to be. I just don't get how the obvious misrepresentation of a source, whether intentional or not is not a kind of betrayal.
I'm sorry if I'm out of line here. I have eagerly mocked myself (easy target, after all) and reached out to controversialists to try to help this be a decent and friendly thread. Now I think I was wasting my time.
Please tell me this was at least inadvertent.
πορευθεντες ουν μαθητευσατε παντα τα εθνη βαπτιζοντες αυτους εις το ονομα του πατρος και του υιου και του αγιου πνευματοc
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
How in the world can you say that "Tribe" would not be a preferred meaning of the word "ETHNOS"? Who do you think Our Lord was referring to....if not the Tribes? [Matthew 10:6]
You are quibbling!
Is St Peter's Basilica built over a pagan cemetery? Yes or No.
Have they found Peter's bones under the Basilica where that pagan cemetery was? Yes or No.
And how do you know that Justin Martyr was wrong about that statue? Did Irenaeus say that he was wrong? Did Origen or Hippolytus or anyone close to the ground at that time say that he was wrong?
**I feel abused! maybe this is abusive of me, but I don't intend it to be. I just don't get how the obvious misrepresentation of a source, whether intentional or not is not a kind of betrayal.**
I have felt similarly when these things have happened to me.
Well, what kind of progress have your feet made this week? Were you able to go to Mass today?