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To: Salvation; Kolokotronis
Mary was the mother of the seed of David in which God was incarnated upon birth ...

Help me out here ... is this the Monophysite heresy, the Arian heresy, or one that I've forgotten?

(Pat's not speaking to me right now, or I'd ask him ...)

10 posted on 03/04/2007 8:37:54 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tax-chick; NYer
The first thing a Catholic learns when they open their Bible is they cannot buy their way out of hell fire.
 
The second thing a Catholic learns is that Jesus was not the founder of the Catholic Church.
 
The third thing a Catholic learns, is they do not receive Jesus Christ as Savior when the Eucharist wafer is placed on their tongue.
 
The fourth thing a Catholic learns is the Mass is not found in the Bible any where.
 
What is the fifth thing a Catholic learns is there is no confession booth in the Bible.
 
The sixth thing a Catholic learns is there is no Pope in the Bible and Peter was not the first Pope.
 
The seventh thing a Catholic learns is the 12 Apostles and New Testament Saints were not Catholic.
 
The eighth thing a Catholic learns is that Mary was never a Catholic.

The following links debunk the false assertions listed above. There are many more lies in the article to be dealt with, however.

The Early Church Fathers

The Early Church Fathers on The Church (Catholic Caucus)

Early Church Fathers on (Oral) Tradition - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Apostolic Succession - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Purgatory - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Salvation Outside the Church [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]

The Early Church Fathers on Mary’s Perpetual Virginity - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on The Primacy of Peter/Rome (Catholic/Orthodox Caucus)

The Early Church Fathers on Hell - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Intercession of the Saints - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on The Real Presence - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Confession / Reconciliation - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on the Immaculate Conception - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Justification - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Contraception - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on Baptism - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

The Early Church Fathers on The Mother of God - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

17 posted on 03/04/2007 8:54:47 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tax-chick
Mary was the mother of the seed of David in which God was incarnated upon birth ...Sounds at least Nestorian. But what I like about it is that it's okay to kill babies before they're born since they aren't really who they are until birth.

I LOVE this article. Let me go back and find MORE neat stuff.

25 posted on 03/04/2007 9:01:02 AM PST by Mad Dawg ("Now we are all Massoud.")
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To: Tax-chick

"Help me out here ... is this the Monophysite heresy, the Arian heresy, or one that I've forgotten?"

Nestorian heresy?

I guess I am only the mother of my children's skin and bones as well. They have a soul that came with the rest of the package...but I must not be the mother of that part of them.

people confuse the term "mother" with "create"


43 posted on 03/04/2007 9:11:51 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Tax-chick

"Help me out here ... is this the Monophysite heresy, the Arian heresy, or one that I've forgotten?"

I hesitate to honor this clown with the title of heretic, but if I had to, I'd say he is either an Arian or more likely a Nestorian. A better title would be, quite simply, "Stupid", invincible stupidity being, as we all know, the oldest heresy!:)

"They learn she held no special position other then the Mother of the Messieh. They learn the Catholic church invented a white religion that is racist and portrays Mary, Joseph, Jesus as white people when they were black or brown."

Is this guy the minister at B. Hussain Obama's parish?

Regards to Pat!


161 posted on 03/04/2007 10:50:46 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Tax-chick; markomalley

**Help me out here**

Ask and ye shall receive.

Mr. Reckart: "Mary was the mother of the seed of David in which God was incarnated upon birth ..."

Right after that line was (1 Tim 3:16), which I would say is harmonious, "..God was manifest in the flesh.."

Manifest or incarnated, same result. NOT interpreted as CREATED. GOD cannot be created.

God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself.

Here's a related question concerning the birth. Which was the father of the Christ, the Son of the living God: the Father, or the Holy Ghost, or both?

Mary was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Matt. 1:18,20
"the Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee.." Luke 1:35
Twelve yrs old: Jesus says, "..I must be about my Father's business." Luke 2:49. Jesus referred to his Father a lot, but never referred to the Holy Ghost as his father.

It is so wonderful to be liberated from the tradition of men, that have tried to teach the Godhead with a carnal, earthly understanding; that more of God was created in Mary's womb. The unspiritual efforts to compartmentalize the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God always end up as an unsolved mystery.

Perhaps Isaiah said it best: "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgement to the Gentiles". Is.43:1

Yes, marko, you may label me 'oneness', if you please. For 28 yrs I was 'threeness', but the confusion was overcome, thank God.


1,708 posted on 03/11/2007 10:16:04 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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