>> There is a great deal more proof,but what would the point be? <<
Exactly. What is your point?
There's a trustworthy foundation.
If anybody wonders about trinitarianism, simply study His Word through faith in Christ and let Him guide the believer, categorizing precisely how God reveals and describes His actions with respect to explicit names He has revealed in Scripture.
Such studies simply reveal is is revealed to us in three persons, all one God.
Are you advocating FOR a revision/re-write of Matt 28:19??
OR....
Are you advocating AGAINST a theological view of the Trinity??
You need to clarify what your "proof" is "proving"... please.
Regards...
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.
Too bad that the everyday churchgoer doesn't realize the amount of poor interpretation and outright lies there are in the KJV and in most "Church" doctrine.
Worshipping the Trinity is hardly different that worshipping the Baalim.
"Affected," not "effected."
The truth is, you've got a Content-Free Sentence Generator, don't you! Did Jim Black sell it to you? I know he's got to have some whopped legal bills about now.
(Might amuse, Steve.)
11 [18] All power . . . me: the Greek word here translated power is the same as that found in the LXX translation of Daniel 7:13-14 where one "like a son of man" is given power and an everlasting kingdom by God. The risen Jesus here claims universal power, i.e., in heaven and on earth.
12 [19] Therefore: since universal power belongs to the risen Jesus (Matthew 28:18), he gives the eleven a mission that is universal. They are to make disciples of all nations. While all nations is understood by some scholars as referring only to all Gentiles, it is probable that it included the Jews as well. Baptizing them: baptism is the means of entrance into the community of the risen one, the Church. In the name of the Father . . . holy Spirit: this is perhaps the clearest expression in the New Testament of trinitarian belief. It may have been the baptismal formula of Matthew's church, but primarily it designates the effect of baptism, the union of the one baptized with the Father, Son, and holy Spirit.
13 [20] All that I have commanded you: the moral teaching found in this gospel, preeminently that of the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7). The commandments of Jesus are the standard of Christian conduct, not the Mosaic law as such, even though some of the Mosaic commandments have now been invested with the authority of Jesus. Behold, I am with you always: the promise of Jesus' real though invisible presence echoes the name Emmanuel given to him in the infancy narrative; see the note on Matthew 1:23. End of the age: see the notes on Matthew 13:39 and Matthew 24:3.
Look at Paul's introduction to his epistles: "To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ." Paul never mentions the concept of a Trinity in any of his introductions.
Notice [James 1:1] "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ."
Peter in his epistles never mentions the Trinitarian concept. [1 Peter 1:3] "Praise be to The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
John speaks of Christ and God as literal beings, never mentioning The Holy Spirit as a bodily person. His salutation in his second epistle is indicative; [2 John 3] "Grace, mercy and peace from God The Father and from Jesus Christ, The Father's son, will be with us in truth and love."
Jude's salutation is also: "To those who have been called , who are loved by God The Father and kept by Jesus Christ."
In the Revelation, John mentions Christ, God and the seven spirits before his throne but does not acknowledge The Holy Spirit.
The reason for this is that the Trinity doctrine was not taught by the early Church....nor the Apostles. It was, and is, a pagan concept! As the early Church gained new members this paganism was allowed to enter as doctrine because many new converts to Christianity brought it with them. Winning converts became all important and allowing them to bring in a Trinitarian idea continued the Babylonian concept of a "Nimrod/God", a "Semiramus/Mother of God" and a "Tammuz/Son" of God. It wasn't long thereafter that the early Church began claiming it too, had a Trinity!
The fact that the "Johannine Comma" [1 John 5:7-8]KJV, is found only in eight late manuscripts, four of which have the words in a marginal note, speaks volumes about this heresy.
The Bible does give reference even indirectly to the Trinity, II Coritheians 13:14.
"14May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all."
Peace.
I can see right now that I should have made this post with over kill. I wonder if there is enuff room for all the info, that would debunk the introduction of trinitarism by the Catholic Church. How many mega bits can these post hold?
Exodus 15
The Song of Moses
3 YHVH is a man of war;
YHVH is His name.
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
There She is!
The Hebrew is emphatic, No man EL…
YHVH masculine
EL feminine
But then again Christians aren’t taught to analyze, are they?